These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Ships & Modules

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Can A JF Initiate A Jump From A Hi Sec System?
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group
#1 - 2014-06-30 16:29:19 UTC
I suspect not.
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#2 - 2014-06-30 16:32:23 UTC
It can jump out of hi-sec, but not in to hi-sec.
Cyno can only be lit in low or null sec.
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#3 - 2014-06-30 17:49:43 UTC
It can jump to any cyno in range regardless of where it is... as long as it isn't docked.

Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.

I invented Tiericide
Perkin Warbeck
Higher Than Everest
#4 - 2014-06-30 21:25:45 UTC
RavenPaine wrote:
It can jump out of hi-sec, but not in to hi-sec.
Cyno can only be lit in low or null sec.


This
Khan Wrenth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2014-07-01 16:39:18 UTC
If they can, why do they ever get ganked? Couldn't they just, jump out to a cyno? Or am I going to be told people ship billions in assets without having a local "GTFO" cyno lit nearby for just such an occasion?

Let's discuss overhauling the way we get intel in EvE.
Aerie Evingod
Midwest Miners LLC
#6 - 2014-07-01 17:05:14 UTC
Khan Wrenth wrote:
If they can, why do they ever get ganked? Couldn't they just, jump out to a cyno? Or am I going to be told people ship billions in assets without having a local "GTFO" cyno lit nearby for just such an occasion?


Gankers also use points. plus, by the time cyno gets lit and the pilot has time to scroll down to jump to cyno he will be dead.
Aerie Evingod
Midwest Miners LLC
#7 - 2014-07-01 17:06:34 UTC
ACY GTMI wrote:
I suspect not.


Go sit on the jita 4-4 undock and watch all the JF jump out.
Lady Naween
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2014-07-01 18:13:55 UTC
Khan Wrenth wrote:
If they can, why do they ever get ganked? Couldn't they just, jump out to a cyno? Or am I going to be told people ship billions in assets without having a local "GTFO" cyno lit nearby for just such an occasion?


and sometimes you are not in range of a cyno, these things can only jump so far after all.
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#9 - 2014-07-05 10:56:54 UTC
"Why do they ever get ganked?" Because people are stupid.

If you are moving a ton of stuff thats worth a lot with a JF, there are ways of undocking, insta-jumping to a cyno then having the cyno be down within seconds. I've only ever seen JF's die to either A)Stupidity or B) Extremely well organized ganks.

But it's 100% avoidable if you are not trying to rush; E.g. if you don't mind spending a full day make a 2-3 cyno trip.
Xequecal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2014-07-05 14:42:30 UTC
Khan Wrenth wrote:
If they can, why do they ever get ganked? Couldn't they just, jump out to a cyno? Or am I going to be told people ship billions in assets without having a local "GTFO" cyno lit nearby for just such an occasion?


Most of the time, it's because they decide they don't want to futz around with their cyno alt and jump to a POS, thinking the guns will protect them.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#11 - 2014-07-05 18:04:35 UTC
Also a jf going to jita has to go through hs. So when you move crap to sell, thats when u get killed

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Alexa Coates
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-07-05 18:15:01 UTC
i dont get the point of caps not being allowed in HS anyway. Concord has the banhammer now, and there isn't anything a dread can do that a group of nados can't do faster, in terms of raw power.

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
Vernon Legaspe
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-07-05 19:53:49 UTC
Khan Wrenth wrote:
If they can, why do they ever get ganked? Couldn't they just, jump out to a cyno? Or am I going to be told people ship billions in assets without having a local "GTFO" cyno lit nearby for just such an occasion?


Some people use them just like regular freighters, autopiloting across the HS spacelanes.
GordonO
BURN EDEN
#14 - 2014-07-07 00:55:51 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:
"Why do they ever get ganked?" Because people are stupid.

If you are moving a ton of stuff thats worth a lot with a JF, there are ways of undocking, insta-jumping to a cyno then having the cyno be down within seconds. I've only ever seen JF's die to either A)Stupidity or B) Extremely well organized ganks.

But it's 100% avoidable if you are not trying to rush; E.g. if you don't mind spending a full day make a 2-3 cyno trip.


I suspect your answer was based on your option A.. how would you get all your precious Null goods to jita if you didn't jump gates in HS? some smart people haul more valuable loot in to jita as apposed to out, and as has been stated.. you can't light a cyno in jit Blink

... What next ??
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#15 - 2014-07-07 03:14:21 UTC
Alexa Coates wrote:
i dont get the point of caps not being allowed in HS anyway. Concord has the banhammer now, and there isn't anything a dread can do that a group of nados can't do faster, in terms of raw power.


Some people think capitals have only hurt the game since they've been added. It is kind of nice to think there is still a place in EvE they are not allowed.

Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.

I invented Tiericide
Perkin Warbeck
Higher Than Everest
#16 - 2014-07-07 08:14:35 UTC
Alexa Coates wrote:
i dont get the point of caps not being allowed in HS anyway. Concord has the banhammer now, and there isn't anything a dread can do that a group of nados can't do faster, in terms of raw power.


Yeah but imagine that fleet of nados instantaneously bridged in next to you just because you didn't have time to react when that T1 frigate lit a cyno.