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New dev blog: Size matters: Scaling the UI

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#161 - 2011-12-06 21:45:20 UTC
OMG we traveled back in time!

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Raid'En
#162 - 2011-12-06 23:08:58 UTC
Harotak wrote:
Please let us scale different elements of the UI separately!

this

i tried yerterday given fleet history take too much space now, but if you can scale back the chat you can't for the others.
and things like the overview where way too small for me.
Lost Hamster
Hamster Holding Corp
#163 - 2011-12-06 23:12:23 UTC
Mal Darkrunner wrote:
This is a great addition, however I would prefer a separate option to scale just the UI text, as I'm happy with the size of my HUD and have never experienced HUD envy...

The reason I'll be using the scaling option will be to reduce the size of the new font to something like it's current size on TQ, but I'd rather not have to reduce the size of all my icons, controls and the HUD in order to achieve that.

Apart from that small niggle, this is a fantastic piece of work Big smile


Exactly, This is what I would like to have. Just a bigger FONT. The UI itself is OK, if I scale it up, then the bigger UI remove precious space.
Snow Wight
Seven Dwarves
#164 - 2011-12-06 23:45:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Snow Wight
This is the worst font scaling imaginable. I thought it was a bug, now I find it's intentional. You can't just scale a font, that's why a single font is created in multiple sizes. The distance between the letters and the height of the different parts of the letters is all wrong making it very difficult to read. Please change this so we can choose our own font. Honestly without exaggeration I won't be able to continue playing if that's what I have to read.

And what is so difficult about antialiasing the font? That's pretty basic stuff. You guys should avoid trying to write your own font scalers, just use the text services provided by the platform the client runs on. This is an excellent example of how writing your own platform independent methods can fail miserably. I love EVE and I love you guys for writing it, but this is UI that just wouldn't ship on most products.
BeforetheStorm90
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#165 - 2011-12-06 23:48:51 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
OMG we traveled back in time!


I rather like gaining a month of my life back. And yes, it does work like that.
2manno Asp
Death By Design
#166 - 2011-12-07 01:21:07 UTC
i'd still like to request a specific change to the little green overheat slit on top of overheatable modules.

it's just too small and annoying to hit consistenly.

any way to make that bigger? like permanently?
Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
#167 - 2011-12-07 01:36:40 UTC
Hammerhea

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That is all... Cry
Blazde
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#168 - 2011-12-07 02:17:11 UTC
I came here to post something pedantic about the new font but..

2manno Asp wrote:
i'd still like to request a specific change to the little green overheat slit on top of overheatable modules.


This is so much more important. With all the awesome 'why-wasn't-it-like-this-before's in the expansion this one has gotten overlooked
Magic Crisp
Amarrian Micro Devices
#169 - 2011-12-07 06:59:17 UTC
Currently the icons (ship icons, OV icons, bracket thingies, etc) are blurred too much on TQ on 90% UI. Also it's hard to read the ammunition's amount in a weapon on the 90% scale on TQ. I hope this improvement you're doing right now will solve this. Maybe I will later check this on sisi when i have the time. But anyway, thanks for imporving this.
Sigras
Conglomo
#170 - 2011-12-07 08:18:41 UTC
I love the idea of UI scaling, but I have a problem with the implementation; the use of logical and actual pixels is great in theory, but in practice, especially when scaling text, certain problems arise.

I know that it requires a bit more programing time, but what should be done is to scale everything except the text then overlay a smaller font size over the scaled UI to prevent things like this from happening

Allow me to illustrate the issue:

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh194/wrath_23/UIscaling.png

Please tell me what the month listed between May and September is . . .
Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#171 - 2011-12-07 08:30:26 UTC
BeanBagKing wrote:
I'm guessing there's supposed to be a new dev blog and they got the ID wrong?


This.

So give us the real blog already!! Lol

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Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#172 - 2011-12-07 09:35:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Ciar Meara
BeforetheStorm90 wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
OMG we traveled back in time!


I rather like gaining a month of my life back. And yes, it does work like that.


I wondered what this was all about. I even checked the date and the dates of the posts to make sure I was not trapped in some kind of weird time bubble where Napoleon won the battle of Waterloo or something.

I bet somebody just wanted more Punkturis on the CCP page...

- [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]

Fraa Bjorn
Cell 317
#173 - 2011-12-07 11:21:24 UTC
Please let us override the default font! Thanks :)

All games have QQ, but only Eve has Q.Q

Xplained
Fuletomcold
#174 - 2011-12-07 11:23:29 UTC
CCP Punkturis is hot. Who is with me? ShockedPirate
Ender Sai
Perkone
Caldari State
#175 - 2011-12-07 11:30:00 UTC
inb4 ban'd aid.

Also.

Confirming that UI scaling is p.cool but also needs some help. I'm sure you guys are on but I saw the repost of the devblog as an invitation to post.

(also, as an aside, I notice that the EVE window, when windowed, shows the name of the char on the account on the bottom, that is so awesome!!!!).

It's the little things.
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#176 - 2011-12-07 11:53:33 UTC
I don't know why this blog was reposted but more replies to my dev blog kind of make me happy Blink

♥ EVE Brogrammer ♥ Team Five 0 ♥ @CCP_Punkturis

Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#177 - 2011-12-07 12:26:48 UTC
Fraa Bjorn wrote:

Sure, want to recode the UI to be able to handle different fonts?

Or do you want some actually useful changes?

Either way I'd guess that our Duchess is able to do some heavy lifting, even in the coding sense.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.

Andrea Griffin
#178 - 2011-12-07 12:29:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Griffin
CCP Punkturis wrote:
I don't know why this blog was reposted but more replies to my dev blog kind of make me happy Blink
I was pretty confused about this myself but hey, it's always nice to have some extra "face time" on the top of the dev blog page, no? : >

It's nice having this feature, by the way. It was the first new Crucible option that I turned on and tried out and it has made playing Eve so much easier for me. Thank you!
Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
#179 - 2011-12-07 13:18:47 UTC
This is indeed a very nice feature - I would however LOVE for certain items to seperately scaled...
Keeping all my windows in the same size, but still being able to scale down my HUD would be lovely :-)

Pinky
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#180 - 2011-12-07 13:19:54 UTC
Andrea Griffin wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
I don't know why this blog was reposted but more replies to my dev blog kind of make me happy Blink
I was pretty confused about this myself but hey, it's always nice to have some extra "face time" on the top of the dev blog page, no? : >

It's nice having this feature, by the way. It was the first new Crucible option that I turned on and tried out and it has made playing Eve so much easier for me. Thank you!


it also got me over 500 likes!

but I'm glad to see you enjoy the feature, makes me very happy Smile

♥ EVE Brogrammer ♥ Team Five 0 ♥ @CCP_Punkturis