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Nathaniel Raynaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#101 - 2014-07-03 16:28:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Nathaniel Raynaud
Revis Owen wrote:
Nathaniel Raynaud wrote:
unless you have people willing to camp outside of the station for hours, which is kind of bot-aspirant in itself.

otherwise i support anything that makes the game more of an emotionally grueling experience for highseccers


I agree with you on making highsec more emotionally grueling. Space is, and should be, always potentially dangerous.

I don't agree that station-camping is kind of bot-aspirant. Though stationary, you are at your keyboard, watching for your target(s), watching and perhaps communicating in local and other chat, coordinating with mates to rotate in/out, etc. Bot-aspirancy is when you ignore everything around you and just come back to the keyboard or look at the monitor only when absolutely necessary to click your mouse button to keep your mindless grind going (e.g., AFK mining and auto-piloting).

Stationary? Yes. Boring? Can be, but not when your target appears. Bot-aspirant or kind of? No.

i suppose it might work for big and important targets, but there'd come a point where you're coordinating two-hour shifts for sitting outside of a station to gank some poor kid's atron and it'd all start to feel a lil bit silly. also, when you'd inevitably get bored and start shitposting in local, all of the people that believe that local should only be used telling some guy "gf" will pop in and and start whining

congrats on making your player character look like the "feels guy" tho
Gank Gank
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#102 - 2014-07-05 14:35:14 UTC
Permits still available. Please contact your local agent to get yours.

Don't fall foul for the sake of 10 million isk.

www.minerbumping.com
Thomas Mayaki
Perkone
Caldari State
#103 - 2014-07-06 13:15:56 UTC
Gank Gank wrote:
Permits still available. Please contact your local agent to get yours.

Don't fall foul for the sake of 10 million isk.

www.minerbumping.com



If you really need the isk I would suggest you beg a bit harder.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#104 - 2014-07-06 23:50:24 UTC
Thomas Mayaki wrote:
Gank Gank wrote:
Permits still available. Please contact your local agent to get yours.

Don't fall foul for the sake of 10 million isk.

www.minerbumping.com



If you really need the isk I would suggest you beg a bit harder.

If we really needed isk we'd find a different profession. We do this to improve high sec.

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Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#105 - 2014-07-11 23:45:43 UTC
Nathaniel Raynaud wrote:
Revis Owen wrote:
Nathaniel Raynaud wrote:
unless you have people willing to camp outside of the station for hours, which is kind of bot-aspirant in itself.

otherwise i support anything that makes the game more of an emotionally grueling experience for highseccers


I agree with you on making highsec more emotionally grueling. Space is, and should be, always potentially dangerous.

I don't agree that station-camping is kind of bot-aspirant. Though stationary, you are at your keyboard, watching for your target(s), watching and perhaps communicating in local and other chat, coordinating with mates to rotate in/out, etc. Bot-aspirancy is when you ignore everything around you and just come back to the keyboard or look at the monitor only when absolutely necessary to click your mouse button to keep your mindless grind going (e.g., AFK mining and auto-piloting).

Stationary? Yes. Boring? Can be, but not when your target appears. Bot-aspirant or kind of? No.

i suppose it might work for big and important targets, but there'd come a point where you're coordinating two-hour shifts for sitting outside of a station to gank some poor kid's atron and it'd all start to feel a lil bit silly. also, when you'd inevitably get bored and start shitposting in local, all of the people that believe that local should only be used telling some guy "gf" will pop in and and start whining

congrats on making your player character look like the "feels guy" tho


Its possible to do something stupid without it being bot-aspirant.
Bethan Le Troix
Krusual Investigation Agency
#106 - 2014-07-13 13:43:12 UTC
For those who wish to buy a mining permit but do not have a local agent is there an official CODE agent who deals with mining permit sales ? There is a worry that the transaction may not be dealt properly. Also is the proper permit wording supplied to the buyer so they can display it legally in their bio ?

Just a thought but if CODE activities are being expanding to all 'AFK' vessels might it be an idea to rename the mining permit to something like ' CODE Ship License' ? All previous sales would still be classed as covering all vessels flown of course.
Subject 4927
DPS INC
Probably Up to No Good
#107 - 2014-07-14 05:24:13 UTC
loyalanon wrote:
James 315 is my shepherd; I shall not want.

He maketh me to lie down in the asteroid belt: he leadeth me beside the gates.

He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of Aufay, I will fear no evil: for the code is with me; thy blaster and thy catalyst they comfort me.

Thou preparest a freighter before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with his blessing; my overheat runneth over.

Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of Code. forever.



"We don't rp"

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Nathaniel Raynaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#108 - 2014-07-14 21:31:25 UTC
Subject 4927 wrote:
loyalanon wrote:
James 315 is my shepherd; I shall not want.

He maketh me to lie down in the asteroid belt: he leadeth me beside the gates.

He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of Aufay, I will fear no evil: for the code is with me; thy blaster and thy catalyst they comfort me.

Thou preparest a freighter before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with his blessing; my overheat runneth over.

Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of Code. forever.



"We don't rp"



is making jokes forbidden too
Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#109 - 2014-07-14 22:47:41 UTC
The CODE always wins
Save yourself the trouble, the tears, and the caps-lock screaming in local and buy your permit today!

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Skyneon
Doomheim
#110 - 2014-07-15 00:13:30 UTC
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
[quote=Thalos Elongus][quote=Voyager Arran][quote=Da Dom]What next?

Docking itself doesn't have any tangible benefit if you afk while doing it. The market requires management of buy/sell orders to stay profitable, though it is clearly the closest to being bot-aspirant behavior. Picking up items from station requires the play to move items manually, and even scamming requires active participation in chat rooms. If there is ever a way to generate isk through a non-interactive method while afk and docked up, then maybe we'll have to station camp, until then I like being able to leave my computer while in station and read the chat logs when I get back.



Haha one time again a codebot who support scamming activity, what a surprise !!!!!

by the way because the goal of the code is to force every player to play as the code want (like for them to be an easy target for they can have a pvp without risk) Why do not made a PLAYING permit ??? every player will have to pay this permit or they are out of the code ???
Yokai Mitsuhide
Doomheim
#111 - 2014-07-15 00:41:32 UTC
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Thomas Mayaki wrote:
Gank Gank wrote:
Permits still available. Please contact your local agent to get yours.

Don't fall foul for the sake of 10 million isk.

www.minerbumping.com



If you really need the isk I would suggest you beg a bit harder.

If we really needed isk we'd find a different profession. We do this to improve high sec.


Hilarious.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#112 - 2014-07-15 18:24:03 UTC  |  Edited by: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Skyneon wrote:
Haha one time again a codebot who support scamming activity, what a surprise !!!!!

by the way because the goal of the code is to force every player to play as the code want (like for them to be an easy target for they can have a pvp without risk) Why do not made a PLAYING permit ??? every player will have to pay this permit or they are out of the code ???

I don't think any new order agent cares how other player's play, however we do want them to have to defend themselves in whatever play style they choose.

As for scamming, why would it be a surprise that I support other player's rights to play as they choose? I personally choose not to participate in scamming (a few bonus rounds were enough to make me realize it wasn't for me), but there are plenty of scammers that I would consider friends.

Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
If we really needed isk we'd find a different profession. We do this to improve high sec.
Hilarious.

Not sure what is so funny about that.

Founder of Violet Squadron, a small gang NPSI community! Mail me for more information.

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Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#113 - 2014-07-16 16:14:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Milan Nantucket
Leto Thule wrote:
Milan Nantucket wrote:


I filtered .5 and above and it says Gallente, Caldari, Minmitar, and Amarr territoy... no CODE or James anything.


The NPC's dont enforce the laws of HISEC. CODE does. Let us know the next time the NPC's gank you for not having a permit.


Hmmm maybe CODE needs oversight... seems they think highly of themselves. I have never been ganked but I have done some ganking.

Maybe a CODE Enforcement enforcement permit? You also have to post in your bio how awesome I am Pirate

I think the issue is people think there are laws or rules to be followed. The only true police is CCP and we all know what they think.
Yokai Mitsuhide
Doomheim
#114 - 2014-07-16 19:53:26 UTC
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:

Not sure what is so funny about that.


That you think you're making any sort of impact at all...is hilarious.
Kiryen O'Bannon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#115 - 2014-07-17 11:12:25 UTC
Tear Jar wrote:
Its possible to do something stupid without it being bot-aspirant.


In fact, it's pretty much impossible to do anything that IS bot-aspirant, since there is no such thing. It's a manufactured concept, intended to imply other people are breaking the EULA without actual evidence that they have done so. It serves no purpose other than well-poisoning in the endless forum wars.

Eternal Father, King of birth, /Who didst create the heaven and earth, /And bid the planets and the sun/ Their own appointed orbits run; /O hear us when we seek thy grace /For those who soar through outer space.
Nathaniel Raynaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#116 - 2014-07-17 12:06:50 UTC
Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:

In fact, it's pretty much impossible to do anything that IS bot-aspirant, since there is no such thing. It's a manufactured concept, intended to imply other people are breaking the EULA without actual evidence that they have done so. It serves no purpose other than well-poisoning in the endless forum wars.

isn't it just meant to imply that people are playing in a boring way? being boring is much worse of an offense than just breaking the rules
Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
Heroes and Villains.
#117 - 2014-07-17 14:28:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Boom Boom Longtime
From a logical perspective, one can argue that purchasing a permit and subsequently enjoying the 365 days "peace of mind" it entails, assuming continual compliance with the code, is excellent bang for interstellar kredit buck and a no brainer to anybody that can engage in cognitive consideration of the wider picture.

Concord Approved Trader
Aoi Eclipso
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#118 - 2014-07-17 22:16:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Aoi Eclipso
Apparently being ousted from systems by people actively engaging them and winning means they have to branch into a new area of extortion.

CODE. serves no purpose, their killboards are irrelevant; most miners trying PvP is laughable sadly. AND I highly suspect due to witnessing it on various characters that they have there own bot fleets (or at least are in league with)

In a certain High-sec system CODE. in cooperation with Goons occupied it for couple hours within 2min of them disappearing from local, player count spikes by 10 or so all with the Toon01 - Toon10 and proceeds to mine out belts, (they didn't have permits either) the group was also not a regular occupant of particular system.

Sadly I didn't have this character or another free agent in the system or I would have ganked them myself.

This occurs frequent enough that I'm not the only one that has noticed it. So it stands to reason that either CODE. is an active participant or have heretics in their church of asshattery.

Hell if you Roleplaying zealots actually knew what a real protection racket was you'd understand that you'd go after nonaligned pirates in your "area"

Oh and while I'm on rant James 315 really? What was he too scared to run the risk of going with John 3:16 or was it taken?

Now that I called them out on the BS I'm gonna be stuck video capturing the antics to prove it, but ah the satisfaction of proving it or the even better satisfaction of being called a liar and it stops, win/win for me Big smile

*edit Toon01 - Toon10 is just a place holder for the names since it was variants of the same name in specific instance but have seen tooname## groups as well
Eldwinn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#119 - 2014-07-23 19:57:07 UTC
Maichin Civire wrote:
Could we please get a list of people responsible for different regions?


1. Just look at their killboard. Gather intel - locator agents.
2. Dodge those systems.
3. ???
4. Profit.
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#120 - 2014-07-23 23:12:59 UTC
Bethan Le Troix wrote:
For those who wish to buy a mining permit but do not have a local agent is there an official CODE agent who deals with mining permit sales ? There is a worry that the transaction may not be dealt properly. Also is the proper permit wording supplied to the buyer so they can display it legally in their bio ?

Just a thought but if CODE activities are being expanding to all 'AFK' vessels might it be an idea to rename the mining permit to something like ' CODE Ship License' ? All previous sales would still be classed as covering all vessels flown of course.


Any agent of the New Order (CODE) is authorized to provide you a permit.

However, if you are more comfortable with a specific agent, that is your choice. As a Diplomatic contact for the CODE. alliance, I would be happy to help you, as would Capt Starfox. Contact either of us in game if you like.