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Wormhole 'Futures' Discussion (Please Bob, yield content)

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Winthorp
#101 - 2014-07-06 04:52:17 UTC
The Feuror wrote:
If you want more content people need to stop joining the "Safe" corps/alliances like HK and NoHo and make smaller corps with 50 active bros spread across 2/3 tz's. - edit: yeah basically same **** Frem just said but tl;dr

If things keep up its gonna be nullsec 2.0 where HK plays the role of CFC and Noho plays the role of NC. while drop-bears sit back and harvest Nova like a bunch of renters.

Then you have LZHX playing the role of the NPC banditos that show up unexpectedly and throw there poop on everyone like a couple rabid chimps.


And people say i am bitter, you take the cake man. Your attempts at global domination not working out for you?

I dislike when people say people are joining "safe" groups. WH space can be tiring and when all you want to do is play the game in WH's it becomes attractive to join these groups as they get the fights you like being in, they have the organization in place, they offer stability and they have proven FC's. In the end its not always about safe and more about wanting to do WH's without the need to bang your head against a wall to play the game.
Keith Planck
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#102 - 2014-07-06 05:19:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Keith Planck
Keith Planck wrote:

all you want to do is play the game in WH's it becomes attractive to join these groups as they get the fights you like being in, they have the organization in place, they offer stability and they have proven FC's. In the end its not always about safe and more about wanting to do WH's without the need to bang your head against a wall to play the game.


*cough*

♞
Winthorp
#103 - 2014-07-06 05:29:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Winthorp
Keith Planck wrote:
Keith Planck wrote:

all you want to do is play the game in WH's it becomes attractive to join these groups as they get the fights you like being in, they have the organization in place, they offer stability and they have proven FC's. In the end its not always about safe and more about wanting to do WH's without the need to bang your head against a wall to play the game.


*cough*



See the difference is there is players like Keith here that do join groups for safety, he left us to join HK right when BU decided we were target number one and since he really loves to PVE he could no longer do that with us safely...

To harsh? No fucks given.
Keith Planck
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#104 - 2014-07-06 06:26:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Keith Planck
Winthorp wrote:
Keith Planck wrote:
Keith Planck wrote:

all you want to do is play the game in WH's it becomes attractive to join these groups as they get the fights you like being in, they have the organization in place, they offer stability and they have proven FC's. In the end its not always about safe and more about wanting to do WH's without the need to bang your head against a wall to play the game.


*cough*



See the difference is there is players like Keith here that do join groups for safety, he left us to join HK right when BU decided we were target number one and since he really loves to PVE he could no longer do that with us safely...

To harsh? No fucks given.


Can confirm this is exactly what happened, PVE is my #1 goal and therefore hard knocks was the obvious choice.

♞
The Feuror
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#105 - 2014-07-06 12:09:20 UTC
Winthorp wrote:
The Feuror wrote:
If you want more content people need to stop joining the "Safe" corps/alliances like HK and NoHo and make smaller corps with 50 active bros spread across 2/3 tz's. - edit: yeah basically same **** Frem just said but tl;dr

If things keep up its gonna be nullsec 2.0 where HK plays the role of CFC and Noho plays the role of NC. while drop-bears sit back and harvest Nova like a bunch of renters.

Then you have LZHX playing the role of the NPC banditos that show up unexpectedly and throw there poop on everyone like a couple rabid chimps.


And people say i am bitter, you take the cake man. Your attempts at global domination not working out for you?

I dislike when people say people are joining "safe" groups. WH space can be tiring and when all you want to do is play the game in WH's it becomes attractive to join these groups as they get the fights you like being in, they have the organization in place, they offer stability and they have proven FC's. In the end its not always about safe and more about wanting to do WH's without the need to bang your head against a wall to play the game.


I can admit that I was bitter they way Rolled Out was formed killed 2 good corps. I have been living bitterness free since it welped into HK and the fact that i calle it out and had you all deny it for a week or 2 was priceless to me.. My OP had nothing to do with rllo was just a general statement.

VVOOF is recruiting able pvpers for WH BLOPS operations
Winthorp
#106 - 2014-07-06 12:20:00 UTC
The Feuror wrote:
Winthorp wrote:
The Feuror wrote:
If you want more content people need to stop joining the "Safe" corps/alliances like HK and NoHo and make smaller corps with 50 active bros spread across 2/3 tz's. - edit: yeah basically same **** Frem just said but tl;dr

If things keep up its gonna be nullsec 2.0 where HK plays the role of CFC and Noho plays the role of NC. while drop-bears sit back and harvest Nova like a bunch of renters.

Then you have LZHX playing the role of the NPC banditos that show up unexpectedly and throw there poop on everyone like a couple rabid chimps.


And people say i am bitter, you take the cake man. Your attempts at global domination not working out for you?

I dislike when people say people are joining "safe" groups. WH space can be tiring and when all you want to do is play the game in WH's it becomes attractive to join these groups as they get the fights you like being in, they have the organization in place, they offer stability and they have proven FC's. In the end its not always about safe and more about wanting to do WH's without the need to bang your head against a wall to play the game.


I can admit that I was bitter they way Rolled Out was formed killed 2 good corps. I have been living bitterness free since it welped into HK and the fact that i calle it out and had you all deny it for a week or 2 was priceless to me.. My OP had nothing to do with rllo was just a general statement.


I like how your bitter about stuff that was never any of your business EOL scrub. You act like you even knew what was going on in Sky let alone Rolled.

You know nothing John Snow.

Go crawl back under the rock you came out of.
Anhenka
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#107 - 2014-07-06 16:34:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Anhenka
It's good to see that this thread has remained a productive and engaging conversation instead of devolving into petty squabbling over past slights.
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#108 - 2014-07-06 16:41:31 UTC
Anhenka wrote:
It's good to see that his thread has remained a productive and engaging conversation

aint nobody got time for dat

Anhenka wrote:
devolving into petty squabbling over past slights.

I got a little time
Osiris Ettnie
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#109 - 2014-07-06 21:31:49 UTC
It's the way of eve the cycle of corps/alliances some cant take the heat disband before they become anything some get big and get bored disband some survive through everything and become something then later down the road DISBAND and some may last a few years and a bit further down the road disband lol it just takes time it eventually happens to everyone. Some longer than others but there is a reason there aren't many people with a perfect employment history.
a DAMN PATRIOT
Dropbears Anonymous
Brave Collective
#110 - 2014-07-07 03:49:01 UTC
The Feuror wrote:
If you want more content people need to stop joining the "Safe" corps/alliances like HK and NoHo and make smaller corps with 50 active bros spread across 2/3 tz's. - edit: yeah basically same **** Frem just said but tl;dr

If things keep up its gonna be nullsec 2.0 where HK plays the role of CFC and Noho plays the role of NC. while drop-bears sit back and harvest Nova like a bunch of renters.


Your KB: http://eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=10187

My KB: http://eve-kill.net/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=333698

I'm not sayin that KB means anything, I'm just sayin.

Come visit Nova any time and we'll teach you how to spell Dropbears.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#111 - 2014-07-07 04:02:37 UTC
Winthorp wrote:
The Feuror wrote:
I can admit that I was bitter they way Rolled Out was formed killed 2 good corps. I have been living bitterness free since it welped into HK and the fact that i calle it out and had you all deny it for a week or 2 was priceless to me.. My OP had nothing to do with rllo was just a general statement.


I like how your bitter about stuff that was never any of your business EOL scrub. You act like you even knew what was going on in Sky let alone Rolled.

You know nothing John Snow.

Go crawl back under the rock you came out of.

Winthorp is right.

Feuror, when you made that thread it was just after we lost some of our main guys to nullsex. For a moment the corp's future was up in the air and it was announced internally that we may close. The feedback from all our guys after hearing this was pretty unanimous - we didn't want to close and we wanted to keep trying to make the corp work. It was about this time you made your thread saying that we'd imploded. Blink

So in fact the was no "denying" anything for a week or two. You were quite simply .. wrong.

So we kept at it for some weeks, recruiting and trying to get good fights, until it was clear that it wasn't going anywhere fast, so the plug was eventually pulled, much to the dismay of many within the corp. But it is what it is. Or was, rather.


Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

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Keith Planck
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#112 - 2014-07-07 23:10:52 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:
Winthorp wrote:
The Feuror wrote:
I can admit that I was bitter they way Rolled Out was formed killed 2 good corps. I have been living bitterness free since it welped into HK and the fact that i calle it out and had you all deny it for a week or 2 was priceless to me.. My OP had nothing to do with rllo was just a general statement.


I like how your bitter about stuff that was never any of your business EOL scrub. You act like you even knew what was going on in Sky let alone Rolled.

You know nothing John Snow.

Go crawl back under the rock you came out of.

Winthorp is right.

Feuror, when you made that thread it was just after we lost some of our main guys to nullsex. For a moment the corp's future was up in the air and it was announced internally that we may close. The feedback from all our guys after hearing this was pretty unanimous - we didn't want to close and we wanted to keep trying to make the corp work. It was about this time you made your thread saying that we'd imploded. Blink

So in fact the was no "denying" anything for a week or two. You were quite simply .. wrong.

So we kept at it for some weeks, recruiting and trying to get good fights, until it was clear that it wasn't going anywhere fast, so the plug was eventually pulled, much to the dismay of many within the corp. But it is what it is. Or was, rather.




All your characters look the same :( you've changed.

♞
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#113 - 2014-07-07 23:20:50 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:
All your characters look the same :( you've changed.

Yeah, I'm copping some serious heat for that. Cry

I though it was cool. Was quite happy with "Dusette Squad". But I'm getting a ton of negative feedback so I'mma change it up again asap, make everyone visit station and get a different look once more.

How things going for you anyway? Having fun I hope! Smile

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CivilWars
Half Empty
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#114 - 2014-07-08 00:02:14 UTC
Regardless of what type of space you fly in the following applies, at least for me. Ganking and/or curb stomping is only fun for so long, then it gets old. To me this doesn't matter which side of the engagement you are on. I enjoy mutually consensual PVP regardless of whether I win or lose. In my time in RLLO we did have a few fights where both us and our opposition said "we may lose this, but we are going in anyway", but they seemed few and far between. Most of the time it was either a case of people POSing up or rolling away, or telling us "hold on, we don't have much" then either dropping as many caps as we had DPS ships, or dropping 2+ times our fleet numbers.

For me this seemed to get more and more common as things went on. Maybe it was just me, maybe it was just USTZ, or maybe it was happening to all of the corp, or even most of w-space. Based on many of the BRs, or lack thereof, I have seen both while in RLLO and since leaving I am leaning towards the latter, and that is a sad thing. It just seems there are maybe a half dozen groups that are willing to A) leave the safety of their home system, and B) engage when there isn't a 100% guarantee they will win. Until that number somehow increases, as much as I love w-space, I will live elsewhere.

So, how do you make this content happen? I have no freaking clue, but I do know that people are motivated by either the opportunity for gain, or fear of loss. Maybe w-space does need to allow for the purge of the risk averse that always run/roll?

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Sith1s Spectre
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#115 - 2014-07-08 00:12:55 UTC
CivilWars wrote:
Regardless of what type of space you fly in the following applies, at least for me. Ganking and/or curb stomping is only fun for so long, then it gets old. To me this doesn't matter which side of the engagement you are on. I enjoy mutually consensual PVP regardless of whether I win or lose. In my time in RLLO we did have a few fights where both us and our opposition said "we may lose this, but we are going in anyway", but they seemed few and far between. Most of the time it was either a case of people POSing up or rolling away, or telling us "hold on, we don't have much" then either dropping as many caps as we had DPS ships, or dropping 2+ times our fleet numbers.

For me this seemed to get more and more common as things went on. Maybe it was just me, maybe it was just USTZ, or maybe it was happening to all of the corp, or even most of w-space. Based on many of the BRs, or lack thereof, I have seen both while in RLLO and since leaving I am leaning towards the latter, and that is a sad thing. It just seems there are maybe a half dozen groups that are willing to A) leave the safety of their home system, and B) engage when there isn't a 100% guarantee they will win. Until that number somehow increases, as much as I love w-space, I will live elsewhere.

So, how do you make this content happen? I have no freaking clue, but I do know that people are motivated by either the opportunity for gain, or fear of loss. Maybe w-space does need to allow for the purge of the risk averse that always run/roll?


Why are we still talking about this

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CivilWars
Half Empty
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#116 - 2014-07-08 00:15:23 UTC
Sith1s Spectre wrote:
CivilWars wrote:
Regardless of what type of space you fly in the following applies, at least for me. Ganking and/or curb stomping is only fun for so long, then it gets old. To me this doesn't matter which side of the engagement you are on. I enjoy mutually consensual PVP regardless of whether I win or lose. In my time in RLLO we did have a few fights where both us and our opposition said "we may lose this, but we are going in anyway", but they seemed few and far between. Most of the time it was either a case of people POSing up or rolling away, or telling us "hold on, we don't have much" then either dropping as many caps as we had DPS ships, or dropping 2+ times our fleet numbers.

For me this seemed to get more and more common as things went on. Maybe it was just me, maybe it was just USTZ, or maybe it was happening to all of the corp, or even most of w-space. Based on many of the BRs, or lack thereof, I have seen both while in RLLO and since leaving I am leaning towards the latter, and that is a sad thing. It just seems there are maybe a half dozen groups that are willing to A) leave the safety of their home system, and B) engage when there isn't a 100% guarantee they will win. Until that number somehow increases, as much as I love w-space, I will live elsewhere.

So, how do you make this content happen? I have no freaking clue, but I do know that people are motivated by either the opportunity for gain, or fear of loss. Maybe w-space does need to allow for the purge of the risk averse that always run/roll?


Why are we still talking about this

Talking about what exactly? Why people are leaving w-space? I thought that was what the whole topic was about?

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Erica Dusette
Division 13
#117 - 2014-07-08 00:25:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Erica Dusette
Sith1s Spectre wrote:
Why are we still talking about this

About Rolo?

Maybe because a lot of people took a great deal of pride and joy being a part of what you created.

For some of us it's still a fond, positive and very relevant memory. Blink

Edit: And you should feel the same too! Nobody (least that I know of) is pissed at you for how it worked out, so, don't feel bad when you see folks talking about it. Feel proud that we still value the memories so highly! From Sky, to Rolo, to HK (if I eventually get around to applying and being accepted) - It's a wild and fun ride and contacting you when I did to join Sky is still the best thing I ever did in EVE.

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Meytal
Doomheim
#118 - 2014-07-08 13:26:38 UTC
Out of curiosity and not poking TOO hard at them, but why would you guys go to groups like HK when they can already field fleets larger than most other people, often more than some sorts have members? Is it to stay in C5/C6 space and there are fewer others doing that, and going lower is not an option? Is it safety in numbers? Something else?
CivilWars
Half Empty
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#119 - 2014-07-08 15:26:36 UTC
Meytal wrote:
Out of curiosity and not poking TOO hard at them, but why would you guys go to groups like HK when they can already field fleets larger than most other people, often more than some sorts have members? Is it to stay in C5/C6 space and there are fewer others doing that, and going lower is not an option? Is it safety in numbers? Something else?

Because the School of Applied Knowledge wasn't recruiting at the time?

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Alundil
Rolled Out
#120 - 2014-07-08 15:27:54 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:
Winthorp wrote:
Keith Planck wrote:
Keith Planck wrote:

all you want to do is play the game in WH's it becomes attractive to join these groups as they get the fights you like being in, they have the organization in place, they offer stability and they have proven FC's. In the end its not always about safe and more about wanting to do WH's without the need to bang your head against a wall to play the game.


*cough*



See the difference is there is players like Keith here that do join groups for safety, he left us to join HK right when BU decided we were target number one and since he really loves to PVE he could no longer do that with us safely...

To harsh? No fucks given.


Can confirm this is exactly what happened, PVE is my #1 goal and therefore hard knocks was the obvious choice.

Yes...the 26 days in HK obviously showed not enough PvP for you and so you moved on? Or perhaps I'm confused.

I'm right behind you