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[Proposal] Judiciary Committee
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Thredd Necro
Doomheim
#21 - 2011-12-06 03:36:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Thredd Necro
A full blown player judiciary will just give another group of players the opportunity to do the sorts of things the CSM does already.

Piracy and scamming are part of the game and CSM's are voted in.

ALL of their power lies with CCP.

If CCP wanted to install a means to call a vote of no confidence, they would have but since that would make it more difficult for players in the CSM to entertain themselves at other players expense...Don't hold your breath is all I'm saying.

Part of CCP"s core design for EVE was to not only allow players to entertain themselves at the expense of other players but to encourage it.

Overall EVE really is a good game but if people aren't lining up to play it, they aren't and CCP can either act like they care or not, it's their game and their business.

CCP doesn't seem anywhere as interested in entertaining the masses and making excellent money AND having a major PVP element in EVE, also known as "having it all", as they are in entertaining those who entertain themselves at others expense.

This basically means that CCP could be entertaining CCP at CCP's expense and the bill for that entertainment could be in the millions of ISK.

But it's their money...Pirate

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#22 - 2011-12-06 12:24:35 UTC
Drake Draconis wrote:

Try readnig again.... might help you understand my viewpoint.



I understand your viewpoint. You are still wrong, however.


Additionally: I tried to look up this word 'readnig' you used (I assumed it was a verb, could be mistaken), but I couldn't find anything.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Iosif Dzughasvilli
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#23 - 2011-12-06 12:35:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Iosif Dzughasvilli
mxzf wrote:
Iosif Dzughasvilli wrote:
First off let me say thankyou for a constructive response. I understand EVE is a player versus player game and have no intention of trying to change that. And in no way am I trying to limit these activities, in fact, I believe my idea could even help to bolster membership in these areas. By placing bounty on whole corporations you invariably increase PvP activity against them, a true pirate corporation shouldn't be afraid of bureaucrats and I believe a more realistic system of government inside EVE could only help an otherwise extremely in depth game.


That's the thing, Eve is a sandbox, you can already do that stuff. You can already say "I'll give anyone who kills X 10M ISK", that is placing a bounty on someone. You don't need an artificial system to do so.

If you want to form a government system, go ahead and do so. You will face the same struggles that all governments have, namely the opposition of anyone who doesn't want to give in to you, but there's nothing stopping you.


I think you misunderstand. I don't particularly want to form it, or even necessarily be a part of it. I think a system such of this could help to legitimize player judicial power in the universe. As EVE is meant to be "do whatever you want", I'm sure people would enjoy sitting on a council like this, arguing over which corporation deserves a bounty, keeping the CSM working hard for all players, dealing with gross negligence or misconduct of huge businesses. I understand and believe EVE should be a PVP game where scamming is a legitimate option for making ISK, but even if you give this judicial branch just enough power to set someones security rating to -1.0 for continued scamming you give all players the option of adding a bounty to a scammer.

Maybe my first idea was not perfect, and not many ideas are. Heck I can't think of any perfect ideas. But I think some sort of system which introduces an additional risk vs reward system is never a bad thing.
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#24 - 2011-12-06 14:02:51 UTC
I'd like to counter-propose an oversight committee to punish players who commit the following crimes:

Ice mining.
Farming highsec L4s.
Bad posting.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Iosif Dzughasvilli
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#25 - 2011-12-06 22:14:17 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
I'd like to counter-propose an oversight committee to punish players who commit the following crimes:

Ice mining.
Farming highsec L4s.
Bad posting.


You already have a whole CSM trying to make those less profitable and make low and nullsec more profitable.
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