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To clarify:

CCP is streamlining increasing transparency for existing processes so they can add additional complexity via newdynamic processes.

While it may seem a fine distinction, in this case, I've yet to see random variables cited in any of the new complexities being introduced. It may seem random, but from what I see, it's a dynamic system based on ever changing player actions - a far cry from random, IMHO.

Understandably it is a PITA to write and maintain code for two paths reaching the same destination, that said... Station and Starbase (POS) S&I operate on fundamentally different premises, it is easy to go "black box" tech with stations and the new system makes perfect sense in that area. On the flip side it doesn't with POS arrays & labs, the have finite volume, mass, and control specs all very tangible things considering they are built, launched, etc etc by players.

Many of the additions seem more geared for a grad student's thesis or a professor testing his/her pet theory than to make a game more enjoyable or intuitive. It is one thing to dabble in the virtual market much like real day traders it is however unrealistic to expect players to 'chase the dragon' from system to system to shave some costs off S&I jobs, it is too tiresome to be sustained for all but the most regimental groups.

I gotta say I have mixed feelings about removing standings requirements from POS deployment entirely. On the one hand, the removal of a requirement to have a particular standing gives newer players an opportunity to get into the manufacturing game in all of it's facets, and I think the ability to put up a POS in any security level system is a good idea. On the other hand, by removing the standings entirely there is not much motivation for industrialists to get faction standings, and now the higher standings can also limit your ability to travel in the other faction's space and move to other manufacturing hubs, actually providing a reason to avoid grinding for standings. It effectively is gutting the importance of faction standings for manufacturers and removing a significant incentive with nothing to counter-balance it.

As a proposal, make the faction standings affect the cost of the job installation, perhaps -1% per point of standings. This would give manufacturers a concrete incentive to get standings, preserves the hard work current players have put in to raising their standings, and also acts as a balance to the tax applied to npc stations as well as the cost added to POS manufacturing.

The Reprocessing and Intensive Reprocessing Array only have a 200.000 m3 capacity.
That way reprocessing a stack of only 10.000 ice will mean moving the ice into the Array and hitting reprocess 50 times!
What if you have 100.000 ice?...

Can't it have a 20.000.000 m3 capacity like the Compressing Array or at least 1.200.000 m3 so you can refine a full freighter?

1) i agree. many players grind these standings. now just like skillbook changes n SP used to be refunded, how is ccp even going to "refund" standings time grind back lol (give free PLEX? HAHAHA). i think the way the new development in this segment of the game is BADLY implemented for the individual player base. CCP is forcing individuals to play MORE characters and become like a swarm of cheap labor ... ISK and time sink is an intentional new feature of this new gamplay instead of fun factor.

2) bugs are an intended feature as i see many others remind me of this. while there are ways to increase difficulty of play in the more niche aspects of gameplay, the new features seem to create additional "turn off" factors to manufacturing, are these features intended to potentially boost profits for certain player corps and reduce number of players intruding into INDY based commerce for the benefit of certain players (like when devs interfere with BPO lottery before?)

3) the changes will benefit the larger indy entities, the smaller entities will all suffer. again, the changes does not seem to benefit indy commerce towards smaller entities. again LOST OF FUN FACTOR.

i wonder when considering dev changes, does the devs also play as indy? or the devs do play INDY and is having a hand at interfering? or maybe someone is asking the devs to interfere for some goodies?

maybe now they will add a new feature, wen POS is up in non applicable faction standing system, NPC will appear and attack your POS. no wait, it is too complicated for ccp to code that. but it is easier to code the new changes ... no wait ... how can that happen?

while changes in game are changes and i understand in many game changing updates, ther are additional NEW playable material that is potentially exciting. i strongly feel that these changes that are suppose to be EXCITING have not been considered as a part of the changes. the DEV should have played it extensively instead of showing us "previously" and then "now" effect like a paint job. as i have said before, and like what is quoted, the changes is not considering the INDIVIDUAL player base PROPERLY, and there is certainly negative excitement.

for all the slaves being traded around in the game, i rather the bonus system be based on number of slaves you buy and insert into your POSs indy production system/modules. although i rather prefer robots. i think this is more logical in thought rather than having 13 labs and having offlined and STILL PROVIDE BONUS being offlined.

im for the idea that POS get NERFED when offlined.

after a timed period, they become derelicts with 1 structure point. in short ... useless junk

oh good, someone noticed.

I'm not sure why people think it should be possible to offline the additional arrays that you will need to gain tax bonuses. It should be the case that they cannot be offlined otherwise the job fails and the materials are lost. Or that it is not physically possible to offline the arrays if a job is in progress.