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Forest Camo In Space Is Dumb
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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#61 - 2014-07-04 09:12:03 UTC
polly papercut wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Xavier Liche wrote:
No, the shoulder patch (in the US) is the unit identifier, esp right side because that is the combat unit you serve with.

BDUs are all the same.
…and yet they will let you identify the unit and as such can gain historical significance. MCCUU ≠ DCU ≠ ACU ≠ NWU ≠ etc (and that's just for the last decade and a single nation — add ODs to the list and you immediately introduce historical significance). Again, it's no different from any other marking in that regard.

Someone can wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniforms_of_the_United_States_Armed_Forces

The patch is the unit identifier the camo is not. Seeing as how the older patteern is only from 2002. The camo has no historic significance. On a side note are you home bound?

Still bleeding profusely from the anus I see Polly .

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Alastair Ormand
Mine all the things
#62 - 2014-07-04 10:08:54 UTC
Xavier Liche wrote:
Just sayin...


Also noticed when I searched that almost every anti-camo thread is locked, but they seem really popular and really tame.

Conspiracy? Blink


A spaceships locking system isn't jammed by the color of a ship.

I discourage running with scissors.
Optimo Sebiestor
The New Eden School of trade
Organization of Skill Extracting Corporations
#63 - 2014-07-04 10:49:36 UTC
Camo in Space is gay, and dumb!
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#64 - 2014-07-04 11:15:37 UTC
says the man in a tanktop and fabulous hair

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Lady Areola Fappington
#65 - 2014-07-04 11:41:02 UTC
It's a stretch, but I suppose you could say the digital camo on the ships is there to distort the thermal signature. Make the ship look like "noise" rather than a defined outline.

Anecdote time, I actually experienced something like that over in the sandbox. Was night time, playing with night vision on the FOB. Guys standing in front of the concrete barriers, I couldn't really make them out in night vision.

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Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#66 - 2014-07-04 12:12:35 UTC
Alastair Ormand wrote:
Xavier Liche wrote:
Just sayin...


Also noticed when I searched that almost every anti-camo thread is locked, but they seem really popular and really tame.

Conspiracy? Blink


A spaceships locking system isn't jammed by the color of a ship.

Wow, your corp's name!

I can't even imagine how two girls would be running like that.........

[i]"Don't look into another human's bowl to see how much he has ... ... look into his bowl to see if he has enough !" - Sol[/i]
Donnero
Arliuhtan
#67 - 2014-07-04 12:57:41 UTC
i am still looking for Hello Kitty Scorpion
Xavier Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
#68 - 2014-07-04 15:03:40 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Xavier Liche wrote:
No, the shoulder patch (in the US) is the unit identifier, esp right side because that is the combat unit you serve with.

BDUs are all the same.
…and yet they will let you identify the unit and as such can gain historical significance. MCCUU ≠ DCU ≠ ACU ≠ NWU ≠ etc (and that's just for the last decade and a single nation — add ODs to the list and you immediately introduce historical significance). Again, it's no different from any other marking in that regard.


lol, Google
Qalix
Long Jump.
#69 - 2014-07-04 15:09:39 UTC
while you're asking questions about camo in space, you should also ask why spaceships have lights on them.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#70 - 2014-07-04 15:21:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
polly papercut wrote:
The patch is the unit identifier the camo is not.
…and yet it is an identifier for the unit that can hold historic significance just like any other marking, as it is doing today and has done multiple times in the past. Or are you saying that ODs don't show history? What about m/39s? What about redcoats? What about the prætorian sash?

Or are you just futilely trying to pick away at a single word in the hope that it will somehow undo the entire history of military design choices?

Quote:
Seeing as how the older patteern is only from 2002. The camo has no historic significance.
Yeah, see, “historical significance” is not limited to what's currently old or new. The WTC attacks are of historical significance, and they're only from 2001. The banking collapse is of historical significance and it is only from 2008. The Ukranian revolution is of historical significance and it is only from 2014.

A pattern from 2002 is of historical significance because it signals that this is a unit from the early 21st century. It'll be very helpful for identification purposes by 2100. Whether it'll symbolise something that's worth preserving and re-enacting is a a question for the future.

Qalix wrote:
while you're asking questions about camo in space, you should also ask why spaceships have lights on them.
So you know which side to pass them on in the shipping lanes. P
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#71 - 2014-07-04 16:14:05 UTC
Tippia wrote:

So you know which side to pass them on in the shipping lanes. P


Those badgers with their high beams on at nightEvil
Josef Djugashvilis
#72 - 2014-07-04 16:58:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
As my Navy Dominix has never been ganked yet, and I have appalling pvp skills, I am convinced that my ship camo is, in fact, very effective.

This is not a signature.
Rapscallion Jones
Omnibus Solutions
#73 - 2014-07-04 18:41:12 UTC
Donnero wrote:
i am still looking for Hello Kitty Scorpion


I suspect it would have an added shield bonus as missiles would be repulsed by its appearance...
Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#74 - 2014-07-04 19:05:29 UTC
Bring back the pink Phobos.

Embrace its destiny, come on. It even has studs and is often fit with dual bubbles...

Proud pilot of the Imperium

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Gaellia Bonaventure
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#75 - 2014-07-04 22:51:46 UTC
Xavier Liche wrote:
Just sayin...


Also noticed when I searched that almost every anti-camo thread is locked, but they seem really popular and really tame.

Conspiracy? Blink


It's no stupider than playing Internet Spaceships and thinking it's somehow important, or that you are "making a difference" the most lulz-worthy campaign ad ever.

Or ship spinning...which I do almost exclusively.

Yes, it's dumb. As dumb as an economic simulator posing as an Innerwebz spaceship game.


Bring your possibles.
Alastair Ormand
Mine all the things
#76 - 2014-07-04 23:39:08 UTC
Christina Project wrote:
Alastair Ormand wrote:
Xavier Liche wrote:
Just sayin...


Also noticed when I searched that almost every anti-camo thread is locked, but they seem really popular and really tame.

Conspiracy? Blink


A spaceships locking system isn't jammed by the color of a ship.

Wow, your corp's name!

I can't even imagine how two girls would be running like that.........


:S Wrong type of scissoring.

I discourage running with scissors.
stoicfaux
#77 - 2014-07-05 00:46:05 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
It's a stretch, but I suppose you could say the digital camo on the ships is there to distort the thermal signature. Make the ship look like "noise" rather than a defined outline.


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I don't think muddling one's heat signature is going to make a bit of difference. Especially given how much energy EVE ships radiate.

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Emiko P'eng
#78 - 2014-07-05 10:30:54 UTC
As has already been stated ever since 'eyeball mk1' became redundant and instead death arrived due to firing at little spots on a screen camouflage has been dead at sea.

So when we finally get to kill each other in space it will be just the same.

But has as been stated in Eve camouflage is just an identifiable paint scheme.

I love the old UK Berlin Urban Camouflage.

ELMRA Articles - Berlin Brigade Urban Paint Scheme

As well as the WWI & pre- WWII Dazzle camouflage

Wikipedia -Dazzle Camouflage

Posted from phone.
Irya Boone
The Scope
#79 - 2014-07-05 11:50:45 UTC
Should create Stars camo ...

like this

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#80 - 2014-07-05 12:51:02 UTC
Rapscallion Jones wrote:
Donnero wrote:
i am still looking for Hello Kitty Scorpion


I suspect it would have an added shield bonus as missiles would be repulsed by its appearance...


That seemed to be the principle behind dazzle camo in WWI ....

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