Warfare & Tactics

I am Jacus Roden, president of the Gallente Federation. What is this? Our most hating enemy has given up stating he doesn't even care? That sounds typically caldarian. To fight only when you are sure you will win, and to just say you weren't committed to the fight in any way should you lose.

That is linked to why hate kept building between the Federation and what was once part of it, the Caldari state. This childish way of thinking of the Caldarians.

The state has never been superior to the federation, and never will be. I advise our enemies to show at least some dignity.

Nice that you rememberd us changing fw corps you must have been in militia a long time ago indeed, shame you dont show your main cause i probably would remember some asswhooping we gave you. Us changing militias didnt had anything to do with kicking ass because no one kicked our ass and certainly not you lol, it had to do with standings and not being able to stay in gallente militia. We never left caldari space btw and didnt care about plexing till about a month ago. So look how things changed now, what took you 2 years to accomplish is something we did in a month, so i suggest you keep those memories of the good old days because those are gone..

And yes it is pretty cheap atm to fight this war but thats because people like you who only battle on the forums with their alt dont have the nerve to come back and do something about it.

Nice excuses, too bad that You can't provide any actual proof, so we can agree on fact that You were owned hard and run away twice since it is well known fact
And there are multiple proves that You run away ("left") to minnie space, like this
http://www.amarr-empire.net/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=47572
As I said that Your weak mind just blocks those unpleasant memories when You were owned. That's why You do not remember them. My advice for You to go take help of medics were serious, they should be able help abuse victims like You.


So far You accomplished only button orbiting. While we did that in between owning You



So floating buttons are in fact blowing some You ships up?!?! Damn You are even more pathetic than I thought. Shame that buttons can not post killmails so I could laugh about You even louder.

Well, main FC's are vehemently against plexing and publicly urge people not to do it because plexing offers no incentive or isk reward (and roaming 30j for lone gank or "good fite" apparently does?). So any budding small gang FC's wont get support and therefore wont bother taking their ships to needless losses (sound strategy of course) because big militia fleet is out somewhere chasing a lone pirate who camps a gate*

Add to this all the usual faggotry like neutral speed tankers, etc. and fact that plexing is now about who can bring biggest blob and park it to relevant system, it mainly removes any incentive to try creative tactics because in 30 minutes time any victory you score will be undone by the side with the bigger blob. Gallente have a bigger blob and have always had it since start of FW, therefore they can take all systems without opponents being able to do aything about it.

And yet they demand people should come and give them kills and "good fites".

So there we have it. CCP took a buggy mechanism from one extreme end to the other without actually considering possible middle-ground and turned system occupancy into proper 0.0 lite structure bash. Congratulations to everyone who screamed about it for years. Tell you what, why dont we bring militia only SBU's to LP stores so we can really prepare for 0.0 "endgame".

* True story. FC removed fleet from highly contested system after wt's had been initially chased out because sitting still for 15 minutes would have been boring and fleet members would have complained. Also, someone reported two pirates camping a gate 11 jumps out so whole gang of 20 guys went there.

Naturally frogs returned few minutes after fleet had disappeared and turning fleet back would been too much of a hassle and plexes were lost.

indeed you have no prove of your asskicking because all you can do is post battle reports you had nothing to do with.You had to look hard in between the black rise kills because this is a gang we took out to minmatar space. My guess is you switched to amarr because you got sick of your fails in caldari fleets, and the reason you dont post with your main is that you dont want us to laugh about your silly k/d ratio. I would say you're better of missioning in high sec as you are doing now and leave the pvp to other people.

and btw buttons dont shoot people you should try to run a plex and find out before you make a fool out of yourself on a plex post... oh too late

You say that like there isn't a Faction Warfare side full of irritating mouthbreathers.

You're all as bad as each other on your worst day, get over it.

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You're ignoring the pvp'er > carebear ratio. The "gives no fucks" carebear that gets ganked all the time and never puts up a fight. Caldari always has, and still has, the most carebears of any militia, who spoon feed opposing militias more kills per day than anyone. So to compare stats...do yourself a favor, and don't.

Stats are always skewed, and anyone who has half a brain only picks out the stats they want, for each induvidual debate/discussion/troll. It's never accurate enough, it never has "every" detail that contributed to every win and loss (I died a hell of a lot to stupidy vs. my cats jumping on the keyboard, but hey) but people will always quote stats, and expect their stats to be considered valid "and **** anyone who thinks otherwise."

After 3 years of all that, I stopped caring unless there was actual incentive involved (isk, fun, adrenaline rush.).

93% of all stats are made up. Seeya in space.

P.S. Yes I'll refuse to plex if it makes my guys bored and we'll get nothing out of it. Every. Time.

I like the change to plexes, means that if one side is motivated and willing to invest the man-hours, they can cap a system or three a day. Now, if they put an ISK reward on capping plexes, or let you spend "victory points" to buy AUR, or somesuch.. I might even give a damn. I'll plex when I'm bored and don't really have anything better to do, but I have no faith in plexing as a way to get enjoyable fights. The mechanic is better than nothing, however most of the opposition is more interested in winning than fighting, so it doesn't much matter that shiptypes are somewhat limited.

Why anyone would care more about flipping pixels in EVE than getting a good fight in EVE, I really don't know.

I found plex fighting to be quite fun. I had some really good fights against val erian that got my heart pumping and against other gallente. It created a lot of opportunities for solo fights, small gang fights, and fleet fights. Wether you're sitting on a gate for an hour waiting for ammon dei/other gallente FCs (minus chatgris cuz hes awesome ) to get their fleet comp *perfect* or orbiting a button for X amount of time it's sad to say that you probably waste just as much time sitting on gates or roaming before finding a gank/fight as you would sitting on a plex timer. Now that the mechanics have it so that all timezones can participate theres even more reason to do plexing because theres actually plexes to fight for.

There has been for the past couple years a pretty rotten attitude in the caldari militia as a whole. You have people acting like asshats towards eachother, towards FCs, such as when they lose a t2 cruiser and they berate the FC who just dropped and sacrificed their own carrier just so the fleet could have a better fight. Attitudes like this drives most pvpers out of the caldari militia because they just don't want to deal with people who behave like this and think FCs should spoon feed them pew pew but they don't want to put in the effort to have comms discipline, or fit their ships properly, let alone train for the ships the militia needs/purchase them, or be respectful. To quote the FC that lost said carrier, this pretty much sums up the level of professionalism in the caldari militia:

"hi. I'm a special ******* snowflake that refuses to fly what the fleet needs but wants to get in fleet anyway" - GavinGoodrich

Caldari militia has been very lucky to have gavin FCing for them. But, They act like ungrateful pricks towards gavin and other FCs like gunnyt31 if a fight goes bad. It's not wonder why gavin doesn't stay (and now gunny) for too long before he gets tired of the drama. Now there isn't to say there are still reasonably level headed, generally pleasant people to interact with in the caldari militia. There are a few guys like that left. It's just that there are so, so many trolls in comparison to "real people" that its no wonder why a good corp doesn't stay in caldari militia for long, the bad attitude just pushes people away.

I spent a short time in the gallente militia and it was some of the best fun I had in FW in months. There was no drama, people were willing to bring what we needed to fleet (such as logi, and even lose them if they had to so we would win/get a fight). If people acted like ass hats they found themselves to be out of fleets and intel channels fast because people in the gallente militia didn't tolerate that crap. It was a pretty laid back and fun atmosphere during this time. I wished the caldari militia was like this. (PS, plexers on both sides are confirmed to be human, i've seen it. So treat eachother as such next time you see eachother in local).

Anyhow this is just a game. I see less levels of butthurt in 0.0 than what i've seen during my time in faction war. People usually treat eachother like human beings and say GF, win or lose. The attitude in this thread (and in game) really gives FW a bad rap. CCP's lack of development didn't "ruin" faction war. People's attitudes towards eachother and constant bickering did. Go out there and pew, rather than argue that "theres no incentive to plex" well theres no incentive to do anything in FW except for the pew pew.