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Looking to kill enemy/friendly militia, best way to do this?

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Corvus Quinn
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-06-30 09:31:22 UTC
So I'm looking to join FW and I'll be targeting both friendly and enemy FW targets. What's the easiest way to do this without getting kicked from FW?

All I can think of is:

-Joining a corp [nobody seems to want an awoxer =P]
-Creating a corp myself with a few alts to balance the standing, but I have no idea how to get 4/5 50ksp alts to 2/3 faction standing to avoid getting my corp kicked.

Anyone have any ideas how I can get this awoxer/FW corp set up without having to worry about it ending after a few days form poor standing?

Thanks
Quinn

P.S.
Yes I know a lot of FW people will get annoyed with me for doing this, but the idea appeals to me =].
Durbon Groth
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-06-30 13:14:43 UTC
Hello there my chaotic-evil friend; iirc the standing penalties for awoxing in fw are quite bad but basicallyy you need to balance the standing gain of capturing fw plexes and killing enemy pilots with the standing loss from killing your buddies. Be aware that many corps will give you bad standings for killing friendlies and word will get about somehow. Best thing to do imo is get a couple of easy kills first, pretend to be noob, appologise and claim you thought he was red. Blame 'overview bugs', that should get you a freeby or two. But after that you should probably only awox juicy targets.
You could also start your own corp, recruit new members, awox them then kick them before they complain too much, that won't lose you standings, but it is pretty maniachal.
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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#3 - 2014-06-30 13:38:33 UTC
Hehe Durbon, nice recipe to end up on everybody's watch list and have camps at every station and gate you are accustomed to use. But I guess it doesn't matter a lot when you dedicate one character to simply be "bridge burner" :)

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Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#4 - 2014-06-30 15:28:02 UTC
Technically speaking, I don't think you can be kicked from Faction Warfare, although you can be kicked from a player corporation enrolled in faction warfare.

Your plan sounds like an excellent way to get started in lowsec piracy. I'd look for the largest, most poorly run faction warfare corp I could find and join that. Try to get roles, steal everything you can, then start your bloody rampage, going for the stupidest and richest members first.

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#5 - 2014-06-30 15:43:29 UTC
FW standings will be your smallest problem.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-06-30 17:15:35 UTC
Haedonism Bot wrote:
Technically speaking, I don't think you can be kicked from Faction Warfare, although you can be kicked from a player corporation enrolled in faction warfare.

Your plan sounds like an excellent way to get started in lowsec piracy. I'd look for the largest, most poorly run faction warfare corp I could find and join that. Try to get roles, steal everything you can, then start your bloody rampage, going for the stupidest and richest members first.

Good luck!


You can be kicked from the Militia (FW) when your standings towards that faction drops too low, which will happen if you kill fellow militia members.

But as said, the mechanics isn't the biggest problem, FW people are a pretty close knit group of people (if you exclude the obvious stabbed plex farmers).

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Corvus Quinn
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-06-30 18:06:04 UTC
I've been thinking, what if I use 2 alts to set up 2 corps in the same FW. I join the one with my terrible standing, the alt corp leader will get 7 days to fix the standing, then at day 6 I drop corp and join my 2nd FW corp for 6 days.

Then rinse and repeat, until I find other ways to extract tears.

Would this work?
Am I right in thinking, the game mechanics would allow me to do this without losing FW status for either corp?
Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-06-30 19:51:14 UTC
Corvus Quinn wrote:
Would this work?
Am I right in thinking, the game mechanics would allow me to do this without losing FW status for either corp?


Yep. Should work. I suspect shooting blues won't be as romantic as it sounds though. You'll just end up on everyone's watchlist and the receiving end of the blob.

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#9 - 2014-06-30 20:47:03 UTC
Do it! And don't forget to write about it :)

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#10 - 2014-06-30 21:02:07 UTC
I am preemptively setting the OP as KOS to my alliance and alerting our allies. Evil
Damen Apol
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2014-06-30 21:25:43 UTC
i run a corp that does this

shoot me a pm
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#12 - 2014-06-30 23:09:42 UTC
The key is that your corp needs to maintain sufficiently high average standings with the militia even with you becoming -10.

That probably means you will need mostly inactive alts (possibly ISK generators) that have good standings to balance your -10.

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Candi LeMew
Division 13
#13 - 2014-06-30 23:29:14 UTC
Damen Apol wrote:
i run a corp that does this

shoot me

Lol

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-07-01 00:21:42 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
ShahFluffers wrote:
I am preemptively setting the OP as KOS to my alliance and alerting our allies. Evil


I say...GO FOR IT.

Don't forget to post in C&P forums with the stories (adds OP to forum watchlist so I can see his posts).


But as Shah just showed, people/corps/alliances will put you their list and relay intel and thus people will know to avoid you or more likely team up against you.

p.s.

If you are in it for the tears, don't expect a whole lot from FW dudes. The ones I know are PvP players and don't give a **** if their ships blow up, it's the reason they are in FW in the first place.

Infiltrate and wreck havoc in high-sec is much more tear-tank fueling. More blinged out mission ships or juicy mining ship targets.

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L'ouris
Have Naught Subsidiaries
#15 - 2014-07-01 14:01:06 UTC
I think that most folk doing this keep the killing alt as a neutral and warp them in on anyone else. Sometimes using the FW alt as a warp in ( smart bombing battleship into the mass of frigates for example ).

I think they do this because neutrals won't be stopped from docking anywhere in the war zone, while being in militia brings more negatives than benefits when actually shooting both sides. This is only a general rule however, I know of a couple folk who are notorious for shooting fellow militia members and they went through some effort to make sure the corp doesn't get kicked due to standing.

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Rezig Huruta
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2014-07-03 20:57:34 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Haedonism Bot wrote:
Technically speaking, I don't think you can be kicked from Faction Warfare, although you can be kicked from a player corporation enrolled in faction warfare.

Your plan sounds like an excellent way to get started in lowsec piracy. I'd look for the largest, most poorly run faction warfare corp I could find and join that. Try to get roles, steal everything you can, then start your bloody rampage, going for the stupidest and richest members first.

Good luck!


You can be kicked from the Militia (FW) when your standings towards that faction drops too low, which will happen if you kill fellow militia members.

But as said, the mechanics isn't the biggest problem, FW people are a pretty close knit group of people (if you exclude the obvious stabbed plex farmers).


Yeah, I'm not sure these are the tears you are looking for. Give it a whirl though, curious to see your results.
Dark Damsell
Running with Dogs
Out of the Blue.
#17 - 2014-07-04 11:44:39 UTC
The OP seems to forgetting one thing.

Blues shoot back too :)