Wormholes

More unknown and random effects like:
- All or at least some WHs have random static. Sometimes it leads to lowsec and sometimes to C4 etc.
- Increase random factor of time and mass of WHs. One day wh stays up only 4 hours, other day 24 h. Anyway you could tell status either from info or graphics.
- Similar escalation what kspace combat sites and anoms randomly give. Rare thing but it gives you secret site location from another wh. Timer has to be much longer than 24h, maybe one month as finding correct hole is difficulty. Loot should be worth the effort. Maybe new type sleeper mods or ghost site type things.
- Random things happen when you pass WH. Passing through randomly could offline one/some of your mods or possibly even destroy. Passing trough could drop you random place in system or even to different system sometimes.
- C4 should have random kspace exit
- Possibility to separate probe and dscan

Wow, I'm really liking several ideas...

I'm really liking this. And about the first idea, it's a system that could also be used to refresh PVE in K-space (sites, missions...).

Yup, I don't know how could I forget about the moving turrets and missile launchers! They do deserve it and could provide models for these new Sleeper modules... I've always thought those big badass particle cannons Sleeper battleships have at their broadsides could look awesome as actual moving turrets, and their missile launchers to be some kind of revolver-action, cylindrical one (I'm looking at this Sleeper's cylinder located on its upper back, poiting towards the camera).

Well, you've got a reasonable point... although sig radius also help turrets and drones, and pulsars don't benefit armor missile boats. I still think, however, that POS missile launchers should not need CPU (only powergrid) so Caldari POS could actually be used.

(FOCUS BERT THIS IS YOUR MOMENT FOOOCUS)

I cast complicated Synapsis and Drugs:
Wormhole Changes:

-Lift C4 Space from the Unsocialpocket ´
= Dualstatics / Random Highsec connection but for the Love of Bob keep the Cap Limitations

Reason: C2 Masterrace needs a hole to upgrade without having to force people to fly Capitals

- PvE Randomness making organized Players earn more then 7b an Hour
= The static Spawning of Escalations waves and Reinforcment waves made it to predictable, also the limited amount of ECM Warfare makes the PvE expierence very limited and not really RISKY

YES YOU CAN RUN C5 ESCAS within 1 Cycle... that simple ... give it 12 Cycles at 700m per Cycle and you got a problem.

Reason: Dear CCP your sleepers are broken, the exploitation for VAST AMOUNTS of MONEY is already happening while Contentwise it ranks behind Incursions

- The ability to Instantly track opening wormholes is AMAZING
= Honestly when I was sieging I just warped a crashing crew to the new hole and crashed it .. **** the fleet on the other side .. if they cant force a hic through as soon as the open right?....

Reason: Took waaaaay too much of Buttsecks Surprise away from Wormholes

- The Game of MASS
= The Game of Mass is my favorite Mechanic about Wormholes, essentially being the backbone of EVERY encounter... sadly its too easy, MORE STAGES and higher deviation

(I still hate Statics they should be gone but many people wouldnt enjoy it)

Reason: Make it hard YO!

- The Miner (aka Poor mans food)
= Many low class dwellers already enjoy the occasional Highsec miner that dips his toe in a C2 Mining site... sadly there is no real "incentive" for miners to go deeper (ICE would be a good example). YES there are "better" belts in the Highclass Systems but "are they better" or just having more of the same **** ... (Where are the tier sized ores like condensed Veldspar)

Reason: Increasing other "activities" in Wormhole Space and hmaking use of the upcoming crius expansion for wormholes

- REMOVE THE ******* HACKING GAME FROM RELIC/DATA Sites

JUST DO IT! Like really KILL It.....or show me the Number that Can Looting has increased since its implementation

Reason: Do i really need to tell you how bad it is? Here a hint.. i have more Fun playing Minesweeper

And my favorite and this is really gonna make some people ... Dafuq?

- GIMME A 5th Propulsion Subsystem ... for MicroJumpDrive and make it 50km and the rest are Skilllevels .. soo per level 10Km...birthing a new breed of T3 ...

Reason: Fights should be not on the Hole ... they should utilize the entire grid.



Edit: The Camper
= Basicly the Orca but Slimmer... you cant store as much 10k m³ for Ammo and maybe 3 cruiser Hulls, it has a refitting option and a Fleet hangar of 2000m³. It also has the nice Blackops Feature of moving faster when cloaked and should be in the BS - Size Hull family.

Reason: I LOVE CAMPING

Coming from a C6 Magnetar thats BALLSY :) but in a C6 Blackhole sleepers might overshoot with 10km/s

In Wolf Rayets you might have problems with 1k DPS leeper frigs... but my favorite would be RR Sleepers in Cataclysmic Variable....


Also Pulsar being the NEW TOP DAMAGE since sleepers dont have shields :D

Supercaps have a small chance of creating (and disappearing into) W space wormholes when activating jump drives. The created wormhole has enough mass for a couple jumps of the ship that created it but spawns in a random location in the two solar systems.

Pff, finally at the end. It would dhelp if people actually kept the discussion on point; W space LITTLE things.


My truly little thing:
- A hotkey for jumping wormholes, just like jumping a stargate, preferrably the same (I think it's d?). I got this under the attention of some CCP staff through Twitter once. You'd think a real little hting like this would have made it in by now.

Not really little:
- Assuming our (small corp's) feeling about them is right; fix loot from relic/data cans. Playing the minigame takes a long time and the reward is much less than simply running more sites. At least the scatter mechanic is gone. But there's a compete imbalance in you needing a group to clear the site and then having a minigame for just one player, relatively taking ages.
We reluctantly run these sites now because they're useless.
- What's the point of the low end gas sites (minor, token, etc)? It's not worth anyone's time to mine them, especially with the risk involved. And they clog up the list of signatures. Not having sig ids change over DT would help with the clogging though.
- The personal storage is nice. But I'd actually like to give specific other people access to my storage so I could use it between alts. Basically the only other option is to have my own tower, but corp permissions still make that hard also.
+ Same for when you introduce a personal SMA.


(ps. THANK YOU for the editing draft system here!)

they used to get effected by some but not others. was inconsistent so it all went away.

I dont think they should be. would make it almost impossible to run sites in a magnetar, and really damn easy in a pulsar.

Come on guys... it is an idea that shouldn't be implemented without tweaking it. The idea is that if you choose a system for its affect, it is odd that you have the advantages of that while running sites, but not the disadvantages. There should be changes made to make it more equal. But sleepers being not affected by it at all is also not equal over all effects...

Chitsa and I were bullshitting around about me sperging some opinions like i always do....but during that process we may started coming up with a new type of PvE...

While Chitsa said in his proposal something about "Special" Loot from sleepers in terms of modules, i highly disagreed with being .. just another Pay to Win Mechanic within Wormholes and would just increase Iskies but then again.

Eve already has a really wierd Exploration Mechanic, many have tried in Nullsec. Its the one where you jump through Systems in between RedCrosses and you get one Escalation after another until you hit the end with an X-Type Dropping Thingy. it's a fun game if you are not the current resident of that region and have to go through dangerous terretory.

Now lets get this into Wormholes? Well some minor changes would be implied and scaling needs to be definitly adjusted, but the general Idea goes like this:

- Timer for Exploration: Many Wormhole Residents have prooven to be in Wormholes for the Longrun, so they actually manage to see the same system twice. Yes it takes time, but within a 3 Month period you can travel alot of Wormholespace. So instead of a 24Hour Deadline you have a 3 month Period of finding that system, to continue that "Exploration Quest".

Now how would the challenge be shaped?
This is an interesting question and definitly needs looking at but it should keep the theme of the Class it was started in while the actual quest leads you across all of new eden (High/ Low / Null / Wormhole Classes 1-6).
So if you start your Arc in a Class 5 you can expect a "Core Garrison" Type Event in the Destination system (no matter which part of space it occupies). This would also mean that Sleepers are starting to venture into new eden, while only be accessable for Wormholers as the Defense Frontier, it gets supplemented by the Lore of the First Pilots of New Eden to explore wormholes themself.

The glorious thing about it, while there is nice loot to be gotten, as you do the Class 6 / 5 arcs you will need a group enviroment to do them, almost like a minor expo crew. So you have the challenge of logistics and capital moving "maybe".

Now the problem of a 3 month window would be to keep track of the missions in the individual player journals, this could be addressed by "Corp Exploration Journal", so that an unlocked mission goes there for everybody to follow up on the progress and goals (Location for example). Also a notification once a corp member enters a target system would be nice.

Just checking in the Class 2 Arc would be doable in a Drake.. :D


So what would be the endgame? Well this is where i can only give you my imagination which will exceed CCPs Budget but .. hey one can dream. What if in the end your Corp has a super narrow time window (24 hours) to gain access to a "Class 7" (the wormholers version not the CCP one) Sleeper dreadnaught... *Squuuueeeeeeeeel*

But yeah the incentive to venture out to these sites definitly needs to be higher then the loot payout of a core garrison type event (Special Loot??????) "otherwise this idea would sound pretty stupid like... NOW YOU CAN SHOOT SLEEPERS IN DIFFERNT PLACES... for one site... yeah no..." (Sleeper Ship BPCs as Endgame Drop anyone?)


Of course your corp in time aquires more access to those missions ... so you have 10 - 20 destinations...

Revert back the "I can see all sigs without launching probes bullshit", please.