Warfare & Tactics

coming from bio who couldnt even defend one system by using the tactic of putting 20 men into one plex and losing the rest

then switched sides

At least bio would win something lol

Ahahah the irony. Too good.

To be honest, the more I think about the mechanism the more I think defensive plexing should be easier then offensive plexing.

If you are defending you run patrols to ensure the area remains safe. If you encounter hostiles you eliminate the threat. Then the level of security or system sovereignty is diminished.

The current gameplay design has determined that we should have active participation to lower system contested levels. Whilst this is sensible, why should it be that you can lower the level without any encounters with the enemy?


An alternative view would be to do away with defensive plexing all together!!!! Change it so that every 4 hours the level drops by 1% automatically. It only rises if someone offensive plex's.

You want to protect your system, you must now engage the enemy as they offensive plex and prevent plex completion. If they run more than two plex's in four hours then the contested level will go up.

Farming, in a defensive form, would be extinguished overnight. Protection of a system becomes a patrol and defend mechanism. You have to eliminate the enemy that tries to offensive plex or your system will become at risk over time. More combat!

Of course, this assumes there is a "workforce" of militia pilots that will be present 24/7 to guard these systems. Some systems would just get flipped on a regular basis. It could have the downside of clustering of Militia forces into some key essential systems.


I think that the current system has improved the warzone. Amarr has taken 4-5 systems since the change. This has been down to a concerted effort by organised groups. Most of the rest of the warzone is settling into low <10% contested.

The ease of defensive plexing will eventually lead to most systems being relatively stable unless a campaign (organised or at least persistent) is lead to take a particular system or set of systems. Should this not be how it should be? Systems can still be flipped with the right amount of effort.

It does put a downer on the influence to the War that casual play has but, this also should be so. Less effort less effect. You can still have an effect, particularly by eliminating enemies who would have plex'd.


However, I still think 7 spawns for a plex is too many. I think the ceiling should be 5 but, with the last one guaranteed to generate within the last 120 seconds of the plex completion.


Still do not agree with the Cov-Ops blanket ban but, we can live with it.

We are done - You're a complete ******** as far as I'm concerned and nothing you say or do will redeem or alter my opinion of you.

If a FC wants to let you fly with them too thats their choice - unlike you If I have an issue with someone I won't go throwing tantrums kicking people from comms, or go sending hate mail about how they will never be welcome in any fleet my character is booster in... I'm a bit more mature than you.
Instead I'll continue to enjoy my time in militia as happily and placidly as I did long ago when you were busy farming lvl 4s in highsec.

It just amuses me to see you lecturing people on risk and telling them to go PVP in highsec when we all know you're just a gobby risk averse highsec bear come to lowsec armed with EFT and a maxed out booster.

If you can't see the irony in your comment above then ok - more to be amused about.

But... you did throw a tantrum and kicked off lol. Lecturing people on bad engagements =/= a lecture on risk.

You are kind of throwing a tantrum in this very thread. Is double irony like a double negative where it cancels out or more like multiplication?

EDIT, just had to check email to remind me what you kicked off about. It was me cutting you off on comms while you were giving bad slow brummy intel, i was also on grid and relayed the situation before you had finished you first 'errrr' lol.

As for the mail about not letting Diana Kim in joint DND W-BR fleet when i was booster, i explained at the time, if she stopped the role play with that particular toon she was welcome in fleet. But she simply cant spout viceral caldari roleplay nonsense with that toon and at the same time use any of the gallente militia titans. Represented a conflict of interest imho. It would seem others agreed since she was removed from W-BR in resolution to that issue.



If there are roughly 5 perhaps 6 plexes per hour that = 3% contested rate if all plexes are won offensively. So the linear decontest rate needs to be where if 3 of the plexes are defended and 3 are lost, the system retains the same contested rate.

So a passive decentest rate of 1.5% ish might be more realistic. But would only maintain the current rate of system contestation if offensive plexes rewarded more like 1% rather than 0.6%. This would also be an issue with random spawns where if there was a puddle of plexes a aystem could be rapidly contested beyond the current generally accepted rate.

Only thing that cant decide if i like about it, is it wont actually change the way the warzone works. It will simply cut out defensive plexing with minimal other impact that i can see.

Im still getting fights solo and small gang. Black Rise was recently the hottest region for kills. If anything needs to be changed, it is the 'risk averse' attitudes and not the mechanics. 'Risk aversion' being a euphimism for female parts and/or 'yellow bellies' which apply to both genders. Sorry ISD Es.

Get a gang, booster, crazy implants, drugs, whatever. Just go out there and lose ships. After all the rat in the plex isnt that big of a deal. Have fun out there, fly dangerously.

Ps. If Vik and Crosi are both Galls would you kindly move the argument to the 'lack of gal mil civil war' thread, please? :-)

and thats why you switched to one of the worst null sec alliances ?

There are good ones in null??? Well I am at least in one of the better bad ones :P
Btw: a winmatar loser talking about bad alliances is funny^^

Edit: Short summary about winmatar because it is soooooo delicious:
1.) Failed in minnie militia and BIG BAD Winmatar alliance got evicted out of home system by 20 gyus within a week.
2.) Moved to galmil. Not accepted there and missions were not farmable so moved to amarrmil because...ah they thought they can farm amarrmil stuff^^
3.) Fail to be continued....

This guy gets it.

Mission status: Accomplished.

I agree with my esteemed colleague Baron though, in that we need to be sure the NPCs don't make kiting fits unworkable. I'm kind of the opinion that the baseline should be that the plexes are easily doable in an appropriately sized ship; going up against larger NPCs than your ship should be somewhat more difficult but not impossible with proper skills and a T2 fit. As it is, kiting fits can't up-engage NPCs nearly as well as brawlers can. I'm not sure what to do on that score, other than potentially lower the tank of the small NPCs slightly to make missile frigates viable. Anything more than that and I'd be concerned about making it too easy on the farmers again.

Also, NPCs should shoot drones if the player's ship isn't a threat itself. But that's just me.