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Ji Hyu Song
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#81 - 2014-07-02 06:58:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Ji Hyu Song
Winchester Steele wrote:



Wrong. Myself and many other shareholders will continue to donate isk, materials and whatever else is needed so that our brothers and sisters of CODE may continue to do god's work indefinitely.

And one guy lol. You need to clean your glasses if you think it's just one guy (not that loyal isn't a total beast.)

Go to www.minerbumping.com and have a peek at the treasury. All that isk will be used to fund the destruction of the non-compliant, and more pours in by the day.


Might as well face facts son; the CODE always wins.



To beat the competition.

The non-compliant is only to your point of view. Afk-ing is part of the in-game mechanism.

As to the always win part, don't be delusional. Look at how many countries we have now on this tiny planet.
One group cannot always win. Which is the fact.
If it does happen, there would be only one country. :D
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#82 - 2014-07-02 11:48:57 UTC
Winchester Steele wrote:
Go to www.minerbumping.com and have a peek at the treasury. All that isk will be used to fund the destruction of the non-compliant, and more pours in by the day.


I read on the internet (in Eve general discussion no less!) that James keeps all the isk for himself.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Revis Owen
Krigmakt Elite
Safety.
#83 - 2014-07-02 11:50:22 UTC
Ji Hyu Song wrote:

As to the always win part, don't be delusional. Look at how many countries we have now on this tiny planet.
One group cannot always win. Which is the fact.


Beneath this Code there is more than a group. Beneath this Code there is an idea, Mr. Song. And ideas are bulletproof.

Agent of the New Order http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html If you do not have a current Mining Permit, please contact me for issuance.
Thomas Mayaki
Perkone
Caldari State
#84 - 2014-07-02 12:38:09 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Winchester Steele wrote:
Go to www.minerbumping.com and have a peek at the treasury. All that isk will be used to fund the destruction of the non-compliant, and more pours in by the day.


I read on the internet (in Eve general discussion no less!) that James keeps all the isk for himself.


I heard it was a percentage not 'all'. I would assume all the donors would except that James315 deserves a certain level of kickback has befits the 'Saviour of Highsec' with 75% not being unreasonable.
Soylent Jade
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#85 - 2014-07-02 13:02:54 UTC
Thomas Mayaki wrote:
admiral root wrote:
Winchester Steele wrote:
Go to www.minerbumping.com and have a peek at the treasury. All that isk will be used to fund the destruction of the non-compliant, and more pours in by the day.


I read on the internet (in Eve general discussion no less!) that James keeps all the isk for himself.


I heard it was a percentage not 'all'. I would assume all the donors would except that James315 deserves a certain level of kickback has befits the 'Saviour of Highsec' with 75% not being unreasonable.


I don't get to play a lot, but I've been reimbursed for every lossmail from ganking that I've submitted to James. I've never seen a CODE ganker say they weren't reimbursed. CODE goes through 1000s of ships every month. Remember, the loss mails on eve-kill are only ones where a player is in on the kill. IMO he deserves a cut of those donations for his blog and the tears it generates, whether he's taking one or not.

Making hisec better...one Catalyst at a time

minerbumping.com
Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#86 - 2014-07-02 14:49:30 UTC
Radric Davids wrote:
Milan Nantucket wrote:
I looked at the big map and don't see code owning any territory.


If you filter by sec status, anything above 0.5 (inclusive) is James 315 territory.

CODE gankers are nerd active, and you will wish you had paid a measly 10m isk next time you lose your 10b charon or rea
-Removed links to killboards. -ISD Dorrim Barstorlode


I filtered .5 and above and it says Gallente, Caldari, Minmitar, and Amarr territoy... no CODE or James anything.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#87 - 2014-07-02 15:04:05 UTC
Milan Nantucket wrote:


I filtered .5 and above and it says Gallente, Caldari, Minmitar, and Amarr territoy... no CODE or James anything.


The NPC's dont enforce the laws of HISEC. CODE does. Let us know the next time the NPC's gank you for not having a permit.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Da Dom
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#88 - 2014-07-02 16:47:37 UTC
What next?

Undocking Permits?

Because Far-que... That's why.
Mori Arty
Doomheim
#89 - 2014-07-02 17:06:48 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Milan Nantucket wrote:


I filtered .5 and above and it says Gallente, Caldari, Minmitar, and Amarr territoy... no CODE or James anything.


The NPC's dont enforce the laws of HISEC. CODE does. Let us know the next time the NPC's gank you for not having a permit.


Well I got ganked by NPC's for not having a pod ganking permit. Where was James to protect me?

This ain't New Order, this is Old School
Logan PewPew
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#90 - 2014-07-02 17:40:52 UTC
Revis Owen wrote:
Ji Hyu Song wrote:

As to the always win part, don't be delusional. Look at how many countries we have now on this tiny planet.
One group cannot always win. Which is the fact.


Beneath this Code there is more than a group. Beneath this Code there is an idea, Mr. Song. And ideas are bulletproof.



Code stuff aside, please don't quote movies. It makes you look really stupid.
Nathaniel Raynaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#91 - 2014-07-02 22:32:45 UTC
people who make fun of the code are no fun at all :/

emergent gaming is a beautiful thing and highsec neurotics should cultivate their aesthetics a bit more before criticizing
Michele Bachmann
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#92 - 2014-07-02 23:07:48 UTC
Da Dom wrote:
What next?

Undocking Permits?


Good idea
Voyager Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#93 - 2014-07-03 03:34:34 UTC
Da Dom wrote:
What next?

Undocking Permits?


Probably not, but only because the act of undocking implies that you have recently pushed a button on your computer and thus does not generally fall within CODE's area of focus. Of course, if CODE did decide that undocking alone was sufficient grounds for suspicion, they would be entirely within their rights to issue and enforce the relevant permits. The law is defined by those with the power to enforce it.
Asia Leigh
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#94 - 2014-07-03 07:04:48 UTC
uh... hate to state the obvious here, but what the hell does hauling have to do with mining/or mining permits?
Apply the damn rules equally >.>
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#95 - 2014-07-03 07:07:30 UTC
Asia Leigh wrote:
uh... hate to state the obvious here, but what the hell does hauling have to do with mining/or mining permits?

It has nothing to do with mining, and everything to do with mining permits. Please remember to differentiate.

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Thalos Elongus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#96 - 2014-07-03 07:38:55 UTC
Voyager Arran wrote:
Da Dom wrote:
What next?

Undocking Permits?


Probably not, but only because the act of undocking implies that you have recently pushed a button on your computer and thus does not generally fall within CODE's area of focus. Of course, if CODE did decide that undocking alone was sufficient grounds for suspicion, they would be entirely within their rights to issue and enforce the relevant permits. The law is defined by those with the power to enforce it.



Would DOCKING Permits be a better choice?

After all it works after autopiloting and you can stay ages inside a station, and do "nothing"

I think that is clearly a bot-aspirant behavior
Nathaniel Raynaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#97 - 2014-07-03 07:46:04 UTC
Thalos Elongus wrote:
Voyager Arran wrote:
Da Dom wrote:
What next?

Undocking Permits?


Probably not, but only because the act of undocking implies that you have recently pushed a button on your computer and thus does not generally fall within CODE's area of focus. Of course, if CODE did decide that undocking alone was sufficient grounds for suspicion, they would be entirely within their rights to issue and enforce the relevant permits. The law is defined by those with the power to enforce it.



Would DOCKING Permits be a better choice?

After all it works after autopiloting and you can stay ages inside a station, and do "nothing"

I think that is clearly a bot-aspirant behavior


the main issue is that enforcing the consequences for an illegitimate dock would be difficult if the rule breaker decided to stay in the station for a long period of time. unless you have people willing to camp outside of the station for hours, which is kind of bot-aspirant in itself.

otherwise i support anything that makes the game more of an emotionally grueling experience for highseccers
Revis Owen
Krigmakt Elite
Safety.
#98 - 2014-07-03 13:28:24 UTC
Logan PewPew wrote:
Code stuff aside, please don't quote movies. It makes you look really stupid.


U mad bro?

Agent of the New Order http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html If you do not have a current Mining Permit, please contact me for issuance.
Revis Owen
Krigmakt Elite
Safety.
#99 - 2014-07-03 16:20:38 UTC
Nathaniel Raynaud wrote:
unless you have people willing to camp outside of the station for hours, which is kind of bot-aspirant in itself.

otherwise i support anything that makes the game more of an emotionally grueling experience for highseccers


I agree with you on making highsec more emotionally grueling. Space is, and should be, always potentially dangerous.

I don't agree that station-camping is kind of bot-aspirant. Though stationary, you are at your keyboard, watching for your target(s), watching and perhaps communicating in local and other chat, coordinating with mates to rotate in/out, etc. Bot-aspirancy is when you ignore everything around you and just come back to the keyboard or look at the monitor only when absolutely necessary to click your mouse button to keep your mindless grind going (e.g., AFK mining and auto-piloting).

Stationary? Yes. Boring? Can be, but not when your target appears. Bot-aspirant or kind of? No.

Agent of the New Order http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html If you do not have a current Mining Permit, please contact me for issuance.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#100 - 2014-07-03 16:21:53 UTC  |  Edited by: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Thalos Elongus wrote:
Voyager Arran wrote:
Da Dom wrote:
What next?

Undocking Permits?


Probably not, but only because the act of undocking implies that you have recently pushed a button on your computer and thus does not generally fall within CODE's area of focus. Of course, if CODE did decide that undocking alone was sufficient grounds for suspicion, they would be entirely within their rights to issue and enforce the relevant permits. The law is defined by those with the power to enforce it.



Would DOCKING Permits be a better choice?

After all it works after autopiloting and you can stay ages inside a station, and do "nothing"

I think that is clearly a bot-aspirant behavior

Docking itself doesn't have any tangible benefit if you afk while doing it. The market requires management of buy/sell orders to stay profitable, though it is clearly the closest to being bot-aspirant behavior. Picking up items from station requires the play to move items manually, and even scamming requires active participation in chat rooms. If there is ever a way to generate isk through a non-interactive method while afk and docked up, then maybe we'll have to station camp, until then I like being able to leave my computer while in station and read the chat logs when I get back.

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