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shooting pods that have GCC will be legal. SoundWave approved. But when ?

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Barakkus
#161 - 2011-12-06 19:18:42 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
no wonder you insist on mining ice


I get it.. You really do enjoy "your pose".

But from what i get you actually agree. You just try to make the one asking for it feel bad or angry. Cool

I dont care either way.

I am care-bear.


my pod can get shot 24/7 so i'm cool with it being easier to shoot pods

i just want to know when in addition to jacking all of a miner's implants I made him lose sp


That's actually a really good point. Now we have implants on pod killmails the next logical step is showing SP loss.

The sound of maniacal laughter on teamspeak because you just popped a pod that you know contained half of the isk a person ever earned is musical to me, the only thing better would be knowing when you broke a persons ability to actually use ships.


The victim gets a mail about what skill they lose from a t3 loss, so should include the same info on the KM Pirate

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#162 - 2011-12-06 19:21:54 UTC
Barakkus wrote:
The victim gets a mail about what skill they lose from a t3 loss, so should include the same info on the KM



Soon we'll rename it to public shame-board,
because of all the pods with ridiculous implants AND fittings .... xD
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#163 - 2011-12-06 19:34:09 UTC

Please close, because it's done. :)
CCP BlueScreen
C C P
C C P Alliance
#164 - 2011-12-06 19:52:12 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:
I'm going to make this happen.

Death to pods!


I'm going to pod your ass!
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#165 - 2011-12-06 19:54:08 UTC
CCP BlueScreen wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:
I'm going to make this happen.

Death to pods!


I'm going to pod your ass!



Quoted for future reference. *lol*
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#166 - 2011-12-06 20:07:21 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
i just want to know when in addition to jacking all of a miner's implants I made him lose sp



Yeah that'd actually be nice to know, too.
Hard to believe anybody could be that stupid to forget to update his clone.

That said, it probably happens hundreds of times every day. *lol*


i am reliably informed your average highsec idiot considers it a 'waste of sp' since nobody pods in highsec

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#167 - 2011-12-06 20:15:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Weaselior wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
i just want to know when in addition to jacking all of a miner's implants I made him lose sp



Yeah that'd actually be nice to know, too.
Hard to believe anybody could be that stupid to forget to update his clone.

That said, it probably happens hundreds of times every day. *lol*


i am reliably informed your average highsec idiot considers it a 'waste of sp' since nobody pods in highsec



'waste of sp' ... waste of isk, you mean ?

Yeah ... true ... nobody pods in highsec. Ever. ^^

Hey, btw, will you sponsor ships at Hulkaggeddon V or just sponsor prices ? ^^
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#168 - 2011-12-06 20:15:57 UTC
ganked double post.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#169 - 2011-12-06 20:19:48 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:
I'm going to make this happen.

Death to pods!


eh, since you are at it. There is another something related to that topic which needs urgent attention. (see my sig)

(hope you can propagate it recursively to tell everyone to iterate on it until its done or all devs become motion sick and decide to work on FW instead)

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#170 - 2011-12-06 20:19:56 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
i just want to know when in addition to jacking all of a miner's implants I made him lose sp



Yeah that'd actually be nice to know, too.
Hard to believe anybody could be that stupid to forget to update his clone.

That said, it probably happens hundreds of times every day. *lol*


i am reliably informed your average highsec idiot considers it a 'waste of sp' since nobody pods in highsec



'waste of sp' ... waste of isk, you mean ?

Yeah ... true ... nobody pods in highsec. Ever. ^^

Hey, btw, will you sponsor ships at Hulkaggeddon V or just sponsor prices ? ^^

oops

waste of isk; original post was ganked and apparently my mind wasn't in it on the second one!

hulkageddon v details will be released when they're released by mittens or helicity

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Xtover
Cold Moon Destruction.
#171 - 2011-12-06 20:50:25 UTC
CCP BlueScreen wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:
I'm going to make this happen.

Death to pods!


I'm going to pod your ass!

That can be taken more ways than one, even in context.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#172 - 2011-12-06 21:05:19 UTC
Weaselior wrote:


You know, sometimes i think i'm on the "wrong side" of EvE.

But it's no fun shooting defenseless ships who didn't do any harm.
It's more fun shooting defenseless pods who are considered bad guys.

I guess i'm not that different from you guys anyway ..... ^^
(... except that i don't do groupstuff, i don't subordinate and i don't take orders from anybody. ^^)
BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
#173 - 2011-12-06 21:44:46 UTC  |  Edited by: BoBoZoBo
I Agree - Criminals should pay with their lives, not just their ships.
(Especially since a nice set of implants may considered a part of the aggressive arsenal.)

Furthermore, there is absolutely NO reason CONCORD should be expected to spend time, resources and military assets responding to the defense of criminals, at the expense of the victims.

It erodes the Good Faith of the state. Not to mention, it is a collective waste of taxpayers had earned ISK and brings no profit to CONCORD of the Empires it serves.

Allow GCC criminals to be podded in Empire without response from CONCORD now!

Primary Test Subject • SmackTalker Elite
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#174 - 2011-12-06 21:47:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Vimsy Vortis
Weaselior wrote:
i am reliably informed your average highsec idiot considers it a 'waste of sp' since nobody pods in highsec

Many highsec folks don't understand how the circumstances in which they lose ships differ.

When a random miner or missioner gets blown up because they shot a canflipper or ninja they often think that the ninja is able to pod-kill them without being concorded so when the ninja/canflipper warps off leaving their pod floating in space they are surprised and chalk it up to some kind of e-honor or will become convinced that it is just not possible to shoot pods in highsec.

So when they get suicide ganked or are at war and pod-killing is completely normal they either assume that their pods cannot be shot or that people will refrain from shooting them because space bushido.
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#175 - 2011-12-06 21:58:58 UTC
CCP BlueScreen wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:
I'm going to make this happen.

Death to pods!


I'm going to pod your ass!


/me turns on popcorn machine

Who wants a bag? Butter?
Myrdraeus Keaunt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#176 - 2011-12-06 22:06:29 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
CCP BlueScreen wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:
I'm going to make this happen.

Death to pods!


I'm going to pod your ass!


/me turns on popcorn machine

Who wants a bag? Butter?


That doesn't sound like a "popcorn" kind of plot.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#177 - 2011-12-06 22:30:15 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Weaselior wrote:


You know, sometimes i think i'm on the "wrong side" of EvE.

But it's no fun shooting defenseless ships who didn't do any harm.
It's more fun shooting defenseless pods who are considered bad guys.

I guess i'm not that different from you guys anyway ..... ^^
(... except that i don't do groupstuff, i don't subordinate and i don't take orders from anybody. ^^)

a person spending their leisure time mining ice needs severe help; you are doing them a favor forcing them to do something else with their time

or they're a bot, and boy a lot of ice miners don't even notice they got blown up

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
SmashTech
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#178 - 2011-12-06 22:31:27 UTC
What's really sad is how highsec dwellers think this is going to prevent ganks.

Let me lay out a few facts for you to peruse and abuse at your leisure:

1. Goons and other people who live in nullsec DGAF if you try to kill them. That's expected where they normally live.

2. Pods insta-warp. You aren't going to catch diddly-squat, not without allowing hictors and dictors.

3. Morons who live in highsec (funny how many of those there are) who lack a decent grasp of combat mechanics are going to get podded a lot more.

4. People who fight in nullsec aren't going to lose their pods in highsec while ganking people, because they have a decent idea of how to fly their ship.

5. We're still going to violence your boat until you cry tears of helpless rage.


This, like the Crucible expansion, is just another buff to gankers and boat-violencers, and isn't going to help the average pubbie. But we can leave it to said pubbie demand this kind of change. And frankly, I'm fine with it.
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#179 - 2011-12-06 22:38:20 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:
I'm going to make this happen.

Death to pods!

yo make podkills show if the guy had an insufficent clone


In the name of all fictional dieties everywhere please.

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
Jetset Movashaka
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#180 - 2011-12-06 22:41:23 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Gankers cost you your ship ... and you compare that to stealing an apple.


You are bringing real life into a game.

There are only those rules the makers apply to the game.

There are only those common beliefs, (is "common beliefs" the right wording here ?)
that every player accepts by and for himself,
or those that get forced onto him ... by the makers.


Just because you believe things are "right",
doesn't mean that there needs to be a global consensus about ...
... what you believe is "right".

You could be "wrong", too.

You can't tell and don't know if it's a "regress". They could be living by the hard laws of nature,
instead of that sickening [whatever] people believe they have in "modern" societies.


Anyway, philosophy is offtopic.


The concept of "Live and Death" doesn't apply at all,
simply because we can not die.

There is no murder in EvE,
because nobody can die.

One can only commit suicide, or "his girlfriend deleted his characters".


Common-Sense is something that even in the real world doesn't get applied, (or used)
and in EvE we're still a bunch of humans sitting in front of a computer,
and aren't people from an imaginary future, living with beliefs you think these people "have" ...

... or "may have" ... but actually: "may or may not have".



LONG STORY SHORT:

You went totally offtopic.
Please stick to the topic at hand, or open another thread about it. :)


I only want to be able to legally shoot pods that have a GCC,
simply because they are criminals and because it makes sense, too.


You're right, I apologize for adding any depth or logic to this discussion. It's a video game, after all.

And no, I didn't go off-topic. I simply went deeper than you wanted to bother with. You simply read it as "TL;DR" and dismissed it, typical.