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EVE Online: Crucible 1.0.1 Feedback

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Skeito
Quay Industries
#21 - 2011-12-06 15:12:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Skeito
nvm
Ang Min
CPD Adventures Pte. Ltd.
#22 - 2011-12-06 15:58:31 UTC
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
Okay, here's how the new system seems to be working:

1) If you have less then 5 (1-4) bookmarks or bookmark folders that apply in the current system, they'll stay in the top-level right-click menu.

- This is way too few, the default limit should have been 10 or 12.

2) If you have 5 or more bookmark folders that apply within the current system, all your bookmarks get moved into a "Personal Locations" sub-folder.

- This needs to be made an option, so that we can decide on when we want things to get shoved into a sub-folder (such as at 12 items, or 20 items).

Agreed. In general, I like the idea of keeping corporate locations separate from personal, but I don't like having to go several layers deep to get to one. Your suggestion to make it user configurable works for me!
Kira Cestral
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2011-12-06 17:15:13 UTC
Well it is 17:11 UTC and I updated client and can't seem to connect to Tranquility.
EveMon also shows that it is not Online and Zero Pilots online.

I did not see anything on news feed saying that patch time is extended though.
The only thing I see is that it is to be completed at 12:30 UTC.
Billionaire Carebear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2011-12-06 17:19:20 UTC
"Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_and_spirit_of_the_law http://krypto451.deviantart.com/art/Care-Bears-Spanking-168001373 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh0Uu1yD-v0  George Carlin "They're Just Words."

Karia Sur
Quay Industries
#25 - 2011-12-06 17:21:41 UTC
Kira Cestral wrote:
Well it is 17:11 UTC and I updated client and can't seem to connect to Tranquility.
EveMon also shows that it is not Online and Zero Pilots online.

I did not see anything on news feed saying that patch time is extended though.
The only thing I see is that it is to be completed at 12:30 UTC.



Its already been taken down because of not enough testing, oops, sorry, I mean 'database issues'.
Billionaire Carebear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2011-12-06 17:24:41 UTC
"Starting up...(65 sec.)"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_and_spirit_of_the_law http://krypto451.deviantart.com/art/Care-Bears-Spanking-168001373 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh0Uu1yD-v0  George Carlin "They're Just Words."

Tiger's Spirit
Templars of the Shadows
#27 - 2011-12-06 17:24:59 UTC
Kira Cestral wrote:
Well it is 17:11 UTC and I updated client and can't seem to connect to Tranquility.
EveMon also shows that it is not Online and Zero Pilots online.

I did not see anything on news feed saying that patch time is extended though.
The only thing I see is that it is to be completed at 12:30 UTC.


"TQ was taken down at 16:42 UTC so we could investigate a database issue that came up suddenly. We will keep you posted as soon as we learn more. Our sincere apologies for the inconvenience."
Billionaire Carebear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2011-12-06 17:27:26 UTC
"The cluster is not currently accepting connections"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_and_spirit_of_the_law http://krypto451.deviantart.com/art/Care-Bears-Spanking-168001373 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh0Uu1yD-v0  George Carlin "They're Just Words."

shasby
Doomheim
#29 - 2011-12-06 17:35:35 UTC
As the bookmark system was before this patch, we had the ability to access bookmarks in the "root" of the right-click menu. This permitted better control over the bookmark structure as we could have popular bookmarks, like our POS, in the root and less popular in folders. It seems to me that the best solution would be to allow corp bookmark folders too, giving complete control over the bookmark structure on the right-click menu. That way if a corp wants to distinguish their bookmarks they can put them all in a folder called, e.g. "corp", and an individual could use, if he wanted to add extra time to all his jumps, a folder called "Personal Locations" or such. This suggestion also permits both corp and individuals to use the root for the important bookmarks.

I'm guessing that the person who came up with the 1.01-version doesn't live in wormholes, where the majority of jumping is done using bookmarks?
Marcus Caspius
#30 - 2011-12-06 17:57:15 UTC
Station Services Window
Arrow When docked the SS widow bumps other windows such as fleet and drone windows out of position.

Grammatical error and spelling mistakes are included for your entertainment!

Arra Lith
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#31 - 2011-12-06 18:13:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Arra Lith
Removing bookmarks from right-click context menu was very bad move...

They were very handly, now to be able to reach bookmarks fast i need to open another window, making even less open space.
Opening 'personal blabla' folder just to reach bookmark makes that option almost useless. I hate mouse-over opening menus, 1 pixel moved in wrong direction and you need to start from scratch :P

New UI is really annoying...
Mograthi
#32 - 2011-12-06 18:26:43 UTC
The new personal bookmarks folder with subfolders when right clicking in space is absolutely horrendous. It now takes way to long to get at a bookmark.
Major Kim
Fawkes' Loyal Professionals
#33 - 2011-12-06 18:30:58 UTC
Agreed, with no previous notification if you have more than 4 bookmarks, they get placed in a subfolder.
I personally don't agree with bookmarks being placed in a "Folder" without my consent.

Why would you have folders if now, they all get placed in one anyway??

Please either revert this change, (we already have folders and many of us know how to use them), or provide an option to have a variable to choose, 5 is far too few.
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ReFitting ships in a pos now takes 1/4 of the time, THANKS!
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I WANT to see the "Pin Window" return ASAP. I would assume the toggle window style would stay there somehow...but that's not my concern...not having a window move that I wasn't actually clicking/dragging IS.

Being able to drag fit's into the market quickbar is great!
Corporation BOOKMARKS (don't know why you call it "locations" now....) are good.
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Some good changes here folks, but some problems also, I'll forgive you if you give me my probes back.
Maul555
Xen Investments
#34 - 2011-12-06 18:50:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Maul555
About the bookmark changes... Great try CCP. something definitely needed to be done about having them all a jumble on the same menu, but you guys got it backwards. I want to be able to see my personal locations on the menu, and have a sub menu for corp locations. You have done the exact opposite here, and its quite frankly annoying. But worse than annoying, this change could get me killed. Its going to take me longer to open up my safe spots bookmarks, and will be much easier to accidentally close the menu by moving the mouse. I am very used to having all my important stuff click-able in an instant.. Please consider changing this, or at the very least, give us the option to customize it. Thank you.

edit: and while we are on the topic, please go back to calling them bookmarks instead of locations. This name change has really thrown me off the last few days....
drdxie
#35 - 2011-12-06 18:54:05 UTC
Perhaps its time for BM's in the overview. Have a column for Personal and Corp and we can sort them.

Caldari Loving needed.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1608277&#post1608277

Sharif elBadid
Fair Trade Holding
#36 - 2011-12-06 18:54:51 UTC
shasby wrote:
Jarnis McPieksu wrote:
Right click menu change regarding bookmarks (sorry, "saved locations") is TERRIBLE - now your bookmarks are all behind one level of additional sub-menu ("Personal Locations" and "Corporate Locations"). When trying to dig up that POS bookmark for a fast getaway, this is going to get people killed...

I could see the current layout as an option, but the way it worked before today was the correct way - freely mixing your personal and corporate locations that are in the current system, all showing directly under the right click menu.

Sure, you could make them visibly different a single-character icon/letter before them or something, but this submenu system is just... FIX BACK NOW! :bittervet getting bitter:

Edit: to clarify, before today it was like this:


Bookmark 1
Bookmark 2
Bookmark 3



Today it is


Personal Locations > Bookmark1
Corporate Locations > Bookmark 2
...................................Bookmark 3

(with the sub-menus behind > opening when you mouse over)

Acceptable way of tagging them could be:

P: Bookmark 1
C: Bookmark 2
C: Bookmark 3

Still could tell personal and corporate ones apart, but no silly submenus. Letter could be replaced with some kind of icon if needed.




+1 ... Pisses me off!
BeanBagKing
The Order of Atlas
#37 - 2011-12-06 19:18:26 UTC  |  Edited by: BeanBagKing
+1 for bookmark change was a bad idea.

Edit #2: Ok, it looks like if I have too many folders in a system it turns it into a subfolder thing? I'm not exactly sure, but I don't like itX
Arra Lith
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#38 - 2011-12-06 19:40:36 UTC
1 more thing to note - bug with all UI windows randomly disappear is still here.

Usually alt+tab spam or opening/closing map fixes it (UI windows visible again), but sometimes it gets very bugged and only logout helps.
If that happen in combat player is screwed ;s
TorTorden
Tors shibari party
#39 - 2011-12-06 20:07:53 UTC  |  Edited by: TorTorden
Think subfolders for personal\corp change is a great Idea and I bet we use them alot more than most.
Bodia Zerh
Grey Wolff
#40 - 2011-12-06 21:04:28 UTC
Lock Pinned Windows option needs to be added again, always setting window placments everytime a window is opened or Docking/Undocking gets enoying.
Scaling UI seems uslees to me and I play on a 46" TV... Having a Change Font size would of been a better option, I can see the Icons fine but text can be a bit small.
Quieter Turret option does nothing and adjusting the world noise dosent adjust it anymore, Why not have an extra audio slide bar for Turret/Missile effects, and Module effects so users can set their audio according to what they require instead of the inadequate audio options that we have now.
Last thing, when opening a wreck to loot it, why would it be set to have a new sized and positioned widow everytime. Why change it from a remembered window size and position like it was before this patch, The multiple corp hangers settings are ok just makes no sence with wrecks, who loots or even gets the same wreck twice.