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The UI is on SiSi right now, and we're actively soliciting feedback. Go test it, and tell us how you find it :)

Does the same goes for balancing?

it's a bit sad to see how much potential is lost because of bad corp mechanics.

i really hope that this is one of the next steps in the big eve development plan.

the overall ideas are the right ones, the changes point in the right direction, the right values are on the table and as long as this is not a fire and forget deployment we should see some good consequences over the next months.

Since the entire point of goonswarm CSM vote rigging has been to wreck high sec, please, at least don't treat high sec population as a bunch of idiots.

1. copying has never been important timesink for module inventions
2. I'm talking about T2 modules - ships were never easy to invent anyway
3. material costs are not the primary costs for many T2 modules - it's time and effort.
4. reduction in manufacturing times only really benefits T2 BPO holders.

Not everyone flies T2 ships, but almost everyone uses T2 modules.

An invention attempt of 8h may as well be 1d.

UI changes are good. Invention time changes, on the other hand, who proposed that calamity?? And why do it now when there is suppose to be a "invention fix patch later"?

Yes this sort of devblog is good. Knowing the vision is good because then game changes can correctly be critiqued on whether they meet that vision, rather than being critiqued just because change is different. You only need to look back at the "future of null-sec" devblog that was done - a couple of years ago now? - and see how well that was received.

Obviously the second part of laying out a vision is then acting on it - even if it's in small steps - and not dropping it at a whim.

Note that I expect you're going to get a lot of grief in these comments from players because you're changing things, and making it so they can't run just Eve ISK-Per-Hour and be told what the most profitable industry action to take is.

Personally I'm looking forward to an industry game where there are more variables in the system that can't be guaranteed, and that have to be estimated. Introducing these, and other risks into industry is much need, and allows those of us who are willing to take more risks to potentially win bigger!

If we don't have a way to control stations and ultimately reprocessing, laboratories and production lines, then all this is for no reason.

high sec, you hire teams, good for everyone, but in Nullsec, if I own a station and I want to hire a team, why shouldn't I be allowed to have that team to myself?

We have heard that we can control production lines as good or better than current, but NOTHING on SiSi and so far my pleas have largely gone unanswered.

If you don't give us the tools to control our industry, then what you envision will never happen as it will largely be a FFA rather than a decision point.

Industry should be a Zero-Alt activity - ie one where having one well skilled character is far superior to having 10 low-skill characters doing it at once. To do this, I have a suggestion.

Introduce skills equivilant to the Retail, Wholesale, Tycoon tree for both manufacturing and invention.

For example, in Research - currently lab operation (x1) gives +1 job and adv lab operation (x8) gives +1 job - instead have lab operation (x1) +1 job/level, 'intermediate' lab operation (x4) +3 jobs per level, adv lab operation (x8) +5 jobs per level, each skill obviously with a rank 5 prerequisite of the previous skill. Manufacturing would similarly have mass production, 'intermediate' mass production, adv. mass production.

Most production will be driven towards POS's, because as you say production costs aren't the limiting factor especially when rapid assembly arrays only add 5% to materials rather than 20% for modules come Crius.

What this means is that copying becomes really important for T2 BPO holders as you'll need to copy your T2 BPO to manufacture from. Personally I don't have a problem with the invention times but if people generally feel that way I would suggest that T2 copy times are nerfed to reduce production. This gives T2 BPO owners the choice to take stupid risks with the BPOs for large profits or to lose out due to copy times being slower than production for T2 BPOs only.

There was some excellent discussion regarding why this is not the case in the aforementioned threads.
*Snip* Removed trolling part of the post. ISD Ezwal.

Thank you for this post. I like them a little less wonky some times.