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Mission runners incredibly skiddish?
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Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
#41 - 2014-07-02 08:23:00 UTC
Deebo Singleton wrote:
Random fuckery with mission runners is so lowball, I don't know why anyone bothers. Spend a few hours passive-target scanning the local bears, watchlist the juicy ones, locator them on a regular basis, then bring a few friends in tornadoes. Simples. Leave the dumb ones to get some isk then come back and harvest them later when it's invested in their ship. The "smart," missioners are the ones you want because they're bold and believe their one undock bm makes them invulnerable.

See this is why you let gankers scan you and see your in a meta3-4/t2 fit with no pimpage. Its why you don't use purple mods in a mission boat and you dont afk autopilot it around highsec.

Will gank for food
Rankan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#42 - 2014-07-02 08:47:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Rankan
Ok so if I start a corp with another alt and then wardec my mission running corp with it, and some 'neutral logi' shows up and reps me while im in a mission, is that logi now a legal target for my other corp?
afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2014-07-02 11:13:23 UTC
So convoluted.

Obviously the easiest thing to do is rep them, once they are over their heads stop - scoop loot. Perhaps "help" by shooting some triggers.

It's not rocket science. Smile
Seth's Dead
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2014-07-02 11:15:00 UTC
Hmmm... Shooting some triggers and warping off could be kind of funny... Too bad many need to actually pop to start the spawns.
afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2014-07-02 11:19:01 UTC
Dont warp off, just bump them in a supertanked ship and wait it out.
Venjenz Sake
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#46 - 2014-07-02 15:24:29 UTC
Seth's Dead wrote:
Anyway, the point of the thread wasnt "why are they all running off?" it was more of a "people are too quick on the warp out button, and not checking to see what people are doing." It was also sort of a general commentary on the state of PvE, I suppose.

People who don't even play EVE know that EVE is the game where every hardcore griefer in the gaming world comes to hone their skills and get in touch with their inner sociopath. It's the game where you automatically assume anyone you don't know, and most of the people you do know, are indeed out to gank/****/destroy you.

EVE is ganker paradise. Period. So if you show up unannounced, you're there to gank. Period. That's not being skittish, that's day 1 of EVE 101 class. Everyone hates you, everyone is out to get you, everyone wants your stuff and will gank you to get it, don't fly pretty or else you brought it on yourself, etc etc.

Plus, highsec ganking is a lot more popular than it used to be, because griefers looking to gain hardcore cred they can flex in other forums for other games like picking on highsec n00bs instead of throwing down in lowsec where they know they'll get raped. So if you dropped into my 0.7 mission, that's what I think...someone too weaksauce to take their nonsense to lowsec is here to try and pick on who they think is the slow kid. That's what gankers do.

Drop into my mission, I'm out. Period. Easier to dock and wait you out with an AFK than mess with my ISK/faction per hour.
Da Dom
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2014-07-02 17:11:18 UTC
WTF would you do if a stranger walked into your home and started giving you a back rub...

Because Far-que... That's why.
Seth's Dead
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2014-07-02 17:24:46 UTC
Da Dom wrote:
WTF would you do if a stranger walked into your home and started giving you a back rub...


I think a better question, more prone to this situation, would be what I would do if I was attacked by several people, and the guy that has been following me around for 10 minutes in a dark alley ran over to bandage up my wounds. In that case, I would let him finish, say thanks, and hope he wasnt going to mug me.
Venjenz Sake
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#49 - 2014-07-02 17:53:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Venjenz Sake
Seth's Dead wrote:
I think a better question, more prone to this situation, would be what I would do if I was attacked by several people, and the guy that has been following me around for 10 minutes in a dark alley ran over to bandage up my wounds. In that case, I would let him finish, say thanks, and hope he wasnt going to mug me.

Bad analogy.

In your "just here to help" model of dropping your logi into someone's highsec mission, uninvited and unannounced, the better analogy is what would a person do if they were in a neighborhood where people get mugged every single day by everyone, and one day they are there doing something, and you appear suddenly and begin running towards them, saying nothing about being there to help or anything.

Someone scared of where they are will see a random, unannounced and uninvited stranger as just another mugger looking for a payday, and will flee first, ask questions later.

You want to play carebear helper of helpless L4 runners, start a corporation with that mission, recruit others, build a name for yourself as the kindly, benevolent soul who traipses the galaxy looking for opportunities to be kind to others. Until then, you're unannounced and uninvited, which means you're there to gank.
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2014-07-02 18:49:51 UTC
afkalt wrote:
So convoluted.

Obviously the easiest thing to do is rep them, once they are over their heads stop - scoop loot. Perhaps "help" by shooting some triggers.

It's not rocket science. Smile

The EVE is strong with this one.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#51 - 2014-07-02 20:00:44 UTC
Da Dom wrote:
WTF would you do if a stranger walked into your home and started giving you a back rub...

I guess it would depend on my mood and how they looked Twisted
Marsan
#52 - 2014-07-02 23:20:34 UTC
Honestly people screw with mission runners so much it does surprise me. Personally the minute someone warps into a site or mission I'm running in HS I figure they are up to no good. Also does ninja looting even work any more? Don't people just drop a tractor, and a salvage drone or 2? In the rare event I've gotten bored enough to mission half the time I don't bother with the loot or salvage. If someone shows I just blue the wrecks on GP.

Former forum cheerleader CCP, now just a grumpy small portion of the community.
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#53 - 2014-07-04 08:49:59 UTC
Rankan wrote:
Ok so if I start a corp with another alt and then wardec my mission running corp with it, and some 'neutral logi' shows up and reps me while im in a mission, is that logi now a legal target for my other corp?


The logi inherits the limited engagement you have between the 2 wardecced corps (if one existed prior to logi jumping in).
Hiyora Akachi
Blood Alcohol Content
T O P S H E L F
#54 - 2014-07-04 13:47:12 UTC
I dunno, in my experience a neut warping to my mission and targeting me generally is not a good thing. Regardless of what they're flying.
Lady Rift
His Majesty's Privateers
#55 - 2014-07-04 14:20:35 UTC
To watch a neut on field with me and run a lv 4 isn't worth the effort of what the lv 4 pays. The lv 4 barely pays enough to run it on its only.
Arec Bardwin
#56 - 2014-07-08 10:33:24 UTC
I like a little company in my missions Big smile
Jeremy Kamira
#57 - 2014-07-11 16:26:58 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
wow, just read the rest of the thread, when did eve fill up with wusses? if they are using a logi to gank me it is worth the lulz to stay on grid imo.


I agree, when you have logi support then any gank performed on you will have less effect due to the logi repping you up. I would probably allign and wait just to see what would happen.
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2014-07-11 18:33:09 UTC
Da Dom wrote:
WTF would you do if a stranger walked into your home and started giving you a back rub...

I support this message.
☺7

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!
Arec Bardwin
#59 - 2014-07-13 15:48:55 UTC
Da Dom wrote:
WTF would you do if a stranger walked into your home and started giving you a back rub...

Ask if the service includes shaving styling the hair on my back?
Lido Seahawk
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2014-07-14 16:29:54 UTC
Da Dom wrote:
WTF would you do if a stranger walked into your home and started giving you a back rub...



I'd make sure there really was $20 in the envelope he placed on the dresser........Lol

May I have your stuff?