Wormholes

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Season 0-2 Spartacus
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I can handle my Siege ... doesnt mean I have to enjoy it ...

I'm not sure if this is correct, I will say they are in general the biggest moaners, and I think this probably gives the impressionof them being unhappy.

Nearly all the small groups I've spoke to seem to be pretty happy and content, yeah is stuff they would like and suggestions they have made.

I get it alot now. If people are unhappy they moan like **** at you to change stuff. If there happy they tend to just be quite and carry on doing what they are doing.

I do get a few good ideas but then alot of stuff you get is pretty silly. lets look below.





Death to static, hmmm and replace with what, This is one of them were people give you a blank statement but nothing else. What do you replace them with? or you don't? are you expecting to totally rely on dynamics?

Remove moons, Ok so you don't want people to live in pos? So everyone is ment to live in carriers or day trip people will only use 1 or 2 ships max as there is no where to store them other than a carrier. This is what i normally call a "pants on head idea" as you can do it but you'll look a prat if you do.

More dynamics. attually a pretty decent idea.

Remove Sd from pos's. This is def something that would need thinking carefully about as chances are the big groups would just go around stomping small groups to get loot. But its something worth thinking on.

Increase PI yield. seems pretty reasonable people tend to go where the money is so could well bring in more people.

Spawn more Ore Belts in Low Class Wormholes. Why as some one has already stated mining was risky before now its just a deathtrap waiting to happen. unless they put them back as needing to be scanned I really don't see any point of this.

Decrease the Anomalies and Increase the Special Sites. Maybe I would need to get more information I just see this being more of a pain in the arse than anything.

Enable C4 Space Dualstatic. a decent idea.

Lift the freaking Mass Limitation of Class 1 wormholes, give the Noobs an Orca they dont have to build inside. Maybe again would need to look in to this for more information. I'm assuming here he means max jump mass.

Reduce the Mass Limitations of C2 to C3 (Da **** do they need a 3b hole for??) I think here he means the total mass, not sure what this would do. Guess it would stop people bringing in a huge bs fleet.

Ice in wormholes. people have already asked CCP have said NO NO NO. next question.

Why having Constellations and no Constellation Chat. Must be a troll question as I have no idea why you would want a constelation chat.

and stop thinking that "a bigger challenge" means MORE DPS! (thats CCP) I'll def pass this on to CCP.

Give Sleepers again the Full Set of Electronic Warfare Toys. yep this could be interesting. The tears when the solo loki in a cap escalation site spents the whole time jammed out would be worth it.

AND FOR BOB FREAKING SAKE REMOVE THE BLOODY MINIGAME! or make one bloody can. I semi agree. Although I can't see CCP getting rid of it. but i personally hate it.

Some of the ideas are good others are pretty terrible. I'd say from the mails I get its probably 75% terrible 15% reasonable and 10% decent.

Just remove insurance from SD instead?

Then let me be one of those people.

I Love W-Space. Never lived anywhere else, never could.

I hate venturing to k-space for fights. Will take the in-your-face opportunities, but would rather roll and scan chains for hours then go one jump over from a k-space exit. Except to find more wormholes to scan.

Has w-space changed? Yes.
Has w-space always been changing? Yes.
Will w-space continue to change? Yes.

Content makers/scouts will burn out.
Pilots will come and go.
Groups will rise and fall.

Real life will continue to take its toll.
As EVE gets older so to do those that start playing it, with all the responsibilities that age brings.

As someone else said recently it is when the "wormholes are dead" threads stop popping up that those of us left will truly have cause to worry.

W-Space is Best Space

Here is my solution and honestly i think its the reason for stagnation in null as well people have no reason to invade they try so hard to balance space and have them equal so everyone has a fair chance. That is the game breaker right there you have to give players a reason to fight a reason to push there enemies out and cause a war. It takes so much effort to go into an all out war that no one is willing to do it if its not worth it. And the biggest thing people fight over in eve is what. ISK ISK ISK that is the biggest motivation for war in this game. Yeah some are caused by grudges or other things but most wars are over isk. Null use to be tech moons and the most profitable regions hence how many Delve wars have there been ya know. Sence the moon balance and the fact that they have been trying to balance all the space there was war over renter territory and that's it now the big dogs have as much as they want so there is no reason to fight. Same applies to WHs. WHs like nova the most well know WH i think that exist could be wrong but whatever not the point. The point is make one WH stronger than the other give alliances a reason to live in C6 space or invade a better yielding c5. The point is why invade a WH when you can just move into another right now that will basically yield you the same amount of isk as any other. As null for example one region USE to yield more than the other until they changed it now, stagnation. If nothing is done about this soon i seriously see trouble in EVEs future there needs to be content. and balance isn't always the answer. No matter how much players gripe about uhhhh there region is better than mine, BUCK UP AND INVADE IT THEN. Thats what creates content thats what we love about this game.

A more moderate version of what HerrBert suggested would appeal to me. Instead of going full random, perhaps static could mean you usually find a certain type of wormhole, but every now and then something magical happens and instead of the usual static you get a different type with the frequence of what you get cooresponding to the class of wormhole. So for example a c2/c4/high might one day find that it is a c2/c4/low or very rarely a c2/c5/high. If the magical events were 5-10% or so of the time they would be common enough to be enjoyed without changing much of the character of the system. The problem with full random in my opinion is it would make the selection of a home less interesting as all c2's would have more or less the same character rather than the current flavor where region 7 c2's are very different homes than region 6 c2's.

I remember back in the day wormholes were a lot more mysterious. I didnt realize there was no such thing as a c2/c2/null or c2/c2/high or even a c3/c4. We imagined that holes had an affinity for certain regions and many other superstitions.

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Anyone that's played EVE for over a year knows that most of EVE quiets down during the summer. If I saw this thread made in the middle of November I'd be a little worried but we're sitting in July.

Give it 4 months and see how active Wspace becomes. If it's still as quiet as some (including myself) have found then feel free to start panicking.

The WH Community is hurting itself. You have all these groups fail-cascading which is normal. Groups rise and they fall in EVE. However they all seem to be going and joining 3-4 groups. These 3-4 groups are able to drop 40+ t3s in both the major TZs which is great for them because when they find a fight they curbstomp everyone. Then it gets boring as curb stomping is only fun for so long. Finding the other 2-3 groups that can compete is rare so epic fights rarely happen.

Then you have groups on the "evicting is all the rage and oh the content it provides" but your evicting Corps/Alliances that months down the road might be able to put up a good fight. Its hard to build a WH group these days, not many people are looking to move to WH space. Instead of evicting (as eviction only provides content for a few days and then none, while if you had left them alone they would have provided content in the future many times over) all these smaller groups cause they POS up when your 20-40 man fleet of bling t3 show up cause they have 10 actives online and berating them in local cause they won't come suicide into you perhaps you should start to help and cultivate these groups. Sure its not your responsibility to help groups grow, its theirs, but if you want more good content a helping hand will go a long way in getting what you want.

Speaking of the large entities... If the average size of a gang in C5/C6 WH space was 20 across both the main TZs you would have way way more epic fights. Sure this probably will never happen because lets be honest somebody is always going to try to bring the most numbers and win by sheer force. I see a lot of talk about asking CCP to change this and change that which would lead to better WH content. What I don't see much of is the WH Community getting together to enact change that would benefit the content.

If Lazerhawks, No-Ho, Disavowed, Hard Knocks, ect. all got together and made some changes it would be better for the entire WH community. For example.

1. Develop an assistance program for new and developing WHs Corps/Alliances who want to move to C5/C6 space. Provide them with solid doctrines for everyday living in WH space. Help them establish the needed security elements when it comes to POSs, recruitment, ect. Help them setup Jabber, Siggy/Trip Wire, TS3, ect if they need it. Cultivate these young ones. Sure tons of people will say its not our job, which is true, but with a little effort the upcoming groups will get to a point where they can move to C5/C6 and then they provide more pew content for you. Add in that if any of these groups signed up on this "assistance program" get invaded that every WH Group will come to their aid and the evicting party themselves will become targets of the entire community for eviction.

2. Split the larger groups up where they have 20 actives in the main two TZs. Have people with multiple alts split them up. Have Corp/Alliance A and Corp/Alliance B but still have them be part of the same group. For example if we took the bigger groups doing 40 man t3s right now thats what 3-5, lets go with 4, that would then be 8 groups of 20.. there 10+ groups out there right now who would fight a fleet of 20.. All of a sudden you went from having a couple groups not being able to find large enough fleets to fight and only doing dunks once in awhile to tons of 20 man gangs out there roaming through WH space smashing into each other.

These are just a couple things off the top of my head, I didn't really develop the ideas as the actual ways of making WH space better would probably come from the WH Community as a whole instead of one person. Now everyone can come in and tell me how its not their job to help other corps grow into a size big enough to provide content nor their job to change themselves to provide more content which funny enough will be the same people moaning about WH content being lackluster and WHs being dead.

TLDR: The WH Community could do a lot of things to benefit the pew content in C5/C6 WH space if they would only get together out of game and come together to do a few things which would benefit everyone from the big guys to the smaller new comers.

We don't need a psycohistorian (read Asimov's foundation if this doesn't mean anything to you, it is strangely relevant) to tell us that small organizations which have been repeatedly curb stomped will break up and many of the members will join the biggest strongest organization they can find. It is also no surprise that those large organizations over hunt their surroundings and become hungry, bitter, idle and lonely resulting in fractures. It is just the way of things.

Just keep scouting, keep looking and follow the prey (or run from the predators if that is your preference.) It will work out.

If you want more content people need to stop joining the "Safe" corps/alliances like HK and NoHo and make smaller corps with 50 active bros spread across 2/3 tz's. - edit: yeah basically same **** Frem just said but tl;dr

If things keep up its gonna be nullsec 2.0 where HK plays the role of CFC and Noho plays the role of NC. while drop-bears sit back and harvest Nova like a bunch of renters.

Then you have LZHX playing the role of the NPC banditos that show up unexpectedly and throw there poop on everyone like a couple rabid chimps.