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Proof that isboxer breaks the eula

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2014-07-01 14:03:55 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Nidal Fervor wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Nidal Fervor wrote:
Not true at all. If too many players quit the game will close down, and what CCP say won't matter at all.
Are you planning to quit?


Does it not occur to you? Normal people, who actually care about the experience, who never come to the forum at all, will have this 40 times unimatrix isboxer alts appear and wipe out their belt. Do you think this is a good experience of the game for them?


How to find other belts. Also, it's not your belt. Nothing is yours unless you can get it first, and keep it from getting blown up. They don't write our names on the sides of asteroids you know.


Well, you know, that's not entirely true. Everything labeled Veldspar is earmarked for one specific dude.


Yep. The dude that manages to mine it first.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
#62 - 2014-07-01 14:03:58 UTC
Nidal Fervor wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Nidal Fervor wrote:
Not true at all. If too many players quit the game will close down, and what CCP say won't matter at all.
Are you planning to quit?


Does it not occur to you? Normal people, who actually care about the experience, who never come to the forum at all, will have this 40 times unimatrix isboxer alts appear and wipe out their belt. Do you think this is a good experience of the game for them?


Ah, was that you screaming in Osmon local at me earlier this morning? How you wanted to do sexual things to me and my pets too. My poor cat was looking at me like he was saying "I don't want the mean person to sodomize me."

If that was you, then you need to grow up.

*and it 50, not 40. Math is hard.

Ugh

They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.

**This IS my main so STFU.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#63 - 2014-07-01 14:07:57 UTC
Belt Scout wrote:
Ah, was that you screaming in Osmon local at me earlier this morning? How you wanted to do sexual things to me and my pets too. My poor cat was looking at me like he was saying "I don't want the mean person to sodomize me."

If that was you, then you need to grow up.
If nothing else, it certainly sounds like one of those “normal” people he wants to represent.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#64 - 2014-07-01 14:11:36 UTC
Nidal Fervor wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Nidal Fervor wrote:
(3) You may not use macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play

See screenshot http://i.imgur.com/OiDpfVR.jpg

40 skiffs mining in an ice field in hi-sec, the belt lasts no more than 30 minutes if he is there. During this time I estimate he must get 40 ice per skiff, 40 skiffs. That's 1600 blocks of ice, at 320k per block that is 500 million isk that he earns from 30 minutes of play, in hi-sec.

Not only does he earn isk far faster than would be possible for him if he wasn't using a 3rd party program to send keystrokes to the clients, but he ruins the game for normal players. I would rather mine with a few bots in the belt than this guy, they are far less detrimental to my experience.


As an Explorer, people with guns are detrimental to my experience, therefor CCP should institute Gun Control measures in EVE Online. Namely a 5 day waiting period and background check on mounting any guns on ships , said background check being a questionnaire asking these questions:

"Do you plan on ganking with these weapons? if yes wait 5 days and also send a "notice of hostility" to your gank target so they know to expect you."

"Do you plan on shooting at Goons with these weapons? if yes have gun right freaking now plus free ammo".

(This is what happens when you let high sec bureaucrats give psych tests btw).

Big smile


That's your problem, most people with guns are playing the game they way it was designed to play, without 3rd party software.

In this case, a 3rd party program is being used to play the game in an extreme manner.


it's worse than you know, now even real life basketball players are using ISBOXER!!!! http://www.separationsnow.com/userfiles/sepspec/image/separationsNOW_ezines_2011/1108_basketball.jpg
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2014-07-01 14:13:21 UTC
OP, this is how you take screenshots of this sort of thing. I was hoping for a wonderful wallpaper with a hundred mining lasers and glowing ice, but no..

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#66 - 2014-07-01 14:17:38 UTC
Posting in soon to be locked redundant thread.

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2014-07-01 14:18:05 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
OP, this is how you take screenshots of this sort of thing. I was hoping for a wonderful wallpaper with a hundred mining lasers and glowing ice, but no..
Nice new hair! Reminds me of the guy on the right.

Nah, just joking, you're still cute. Blink

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
#68 - 2014-07-01 14:19:41 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Belt Scout wrote:
Ah, was that you screaming in Osmon local at me earlier this morning? How you wanted to do sexual things to me and my pets too. My poor cat was looking at me like he was saying "I don't want the mean person to sodomize me."

If that was you, then you need to grow up.
If nothing else, it certainly sounds like one of those “normal” people he wants to represent.


People need to accept the fact that every aspect of this game involves one form or another of PvP. I accepted this rule a long time ago, and the game has been nothing but enjoyable since that moment. Too many folks believe they own the space and everything directly around them including their own ship, and that's simply not the case. When i run my mining fleet for resources, as soon as that rock or block of ice lands in my hanger, that is the point where CCP says, "it's now yours to do with as you please." Everything that happens to that rock or ice block before that point is totally up in the air and subject to loss to another player. (including the transport of it.)

If people can just let this sink in, they would have a lot more fun in this game.

.

They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.

**This IS my main so STFU.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#69 - 2014-07-01 14:19:44 UTC
Now get a group of like minded people, bump all the barges off grid and gank them one by one. You keep doing that until all of the accounts go silent. Then you congratulate yourselves and look for another ISBoxing miner.

Don't forget to make a thread/blog about it.

Shouldn't CODE be active in this?

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malcovas Henderson
THoF
#70 - 2014-07-01 14:25:45 UTC
All I see in these types of Threads is jealousy
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#71 - 2014-07-01 14:28:07 UTC
Nidal Fervor wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
CCP said ISboxer is allowed.

/thread

Wait. Did they say it is explicitly allowed or only that it isn't forbidden or even just not persecuted?
These distinctions are important.


They said

"the multiboxing application is not something we plan to actively police at this time"

"However, if any third party application or other software is used to gain any unfair advantage, or for purposes beyond its intended use, or if the application or other software violates other parts of the EULA, we may fully enforce our rights to prohibit such use, including player bans. Please use such third party applications or other software at your own risk."

They never said it was okay, use at your own risk.


All a rather circumventory way of admitting they don't see a profit in banning someone paying $600-$800 a month.
Dave Stark
#72 - 2014-07-01 14:28:31 UTC
Nidal Fervor wrote:
(3) You may not use macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play

See screenshot http://i.imgur.com/OiDpfVR.jpg

40 skiffs mining in an ice field in hi-sec, the belt lasts no more than 30 minutes if he is there. During this time I estimate he must get 40 ice per skiff, 40 skiffs. That's 1600 blocks of ice, at 320k per block that is 500 million isk that he earns from 30 minutes of play, in hi-sec.

Not only does he earn isk far faster than would be possible for him if he wasn't using a 3rd party program to send keystrokes to the clients, but he ruins the game for normal players. I would rather mine with a few bots in the belt than this guy, they are far less detrimental to my experience.


on a scale of 1 to dropped on your head at birth, the fall must have been from a great height.
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#73 - 2014-07-01 14:29:23 UTC
malcovas Henderson wrote:
All I see in these types of Threads is jealousy






It's not jealousy. It's frustrating to be outplayed by someone who is basicly cheating.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2014-07-01 14:30:45 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
malcovas Henderson wrote:
All I see in these types of Threads is jealousy






It's not jealousy. It's frustrating to be outplayed by someone who is basicly cheating.


No one has demonstrated any cheating going on yet. If you think you have found someone cheating, file a support ticket. Getting up in arms about it on the forums achieves nothing except another locked redundant thread.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2014-07-01 14:31:05 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Nice new hair! Reminds me of the guy on the right.

Nah, just joking, you're still cute. Blink

Slates is pretty! And bangs are the sex.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Dave Stark
#76 - 2014-07-01 14:31:18 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
malcovas Henderson wrote:
All I see in these types of Threads is jealousy






It's not jealousy. It's frustrating to be outplayed by someone who is basicly cheating.


No one has demonstrated any cheating going on yet. If you think you have found someone cheating, file a support ticket. Getting up in arms about it on the forums achieves nothing except another locked redundant thread.


and people laughing at you.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#77 - 2014-07-01 14:31:37 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
malcovas Henderson wrote:
All I see in these types of Threads is jealousy






It's not jealousy. It's frustrating to be outplayed by someone who is basicly cheating.
Outplayed yes, cheating no.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Feyd's Survival Pack
Solecist Project
#78 - 2014-07-01 14:35:12 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Nice new hair! Reminds me of the guy on the right.

Nah, just joking, you're still cute. Blink

Slates is pretty! And bangs are the sex.

I wondered when you'll finally start jumping on the train.

Nice improvement, except for the expression.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Arcelian
0nus
#79 - 2014-07-01 14:39:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Arcelian
I have 3 27 inch monitors. It allows me to play with my miners, and pvp/rat at the same time, while still keeping a good sense of awareness. It would be much more difficult, actually pretty impossible to do this with just one screen. Should CCP ban multiple screens?

Because based on what you are saying, they should. I paid money in hardware to be able to use multiple characters effectively, therefore I have an unfair advantage. It doesn't make sense.

Now, that being said, I ******* hate IS Boxer and those who use it. They keep ice and mineral prices low, which isn't good for someone in my line of work. It's a way of managing multiple characters without investing in the hardware. Therefore, I blow them up, consistently and without prejudice. You should try it.

Also, since you seem to have given the portrayal that you have popular support, since everyone hates it when these 40 skiffs show up, you won't have to be alone. The IS Boxer will think twice when launching that fleet when he's losing 5 skiffs at a time. Those aren't cheap.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#80 - 2014-07-01 14:41:58 UTC
Arcelian wrote:
Therefore, I blow them up, consistently and without prejudice. You should try it.
This is how you deal with the competition in true Eve style.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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