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Sexualized female characters isn't sexist!

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-07-01 00:39:11 UTC
I had to get this off my chest.

Fact:
most straight women, straight men, gay women, and even a majority of gay men don't mind or even like sexualized female characters. Of course different genders tend toward different views on which types of sexualization are best or worst, but overall it's mostly only extremists that have a problem with it overall.

You want to know what is sexist? Sexist is avoiding the sexualization of male characters. When the creators and/or directors of a medium go to great lengths to ensure that the male characters are devoid of any sex appeal while sexualizing the female characters, that's sexist.

Here's a very short list of media that sexualize both male and female characters:

  • Duke Nukem
  • Star Trek: The Next Generation
  • Ouran High School Host Club
  • Final Fantasy




So without further ado, flame away!

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Nose' Feliciano
#2 - 2014-07-01 00:48:44 UTC
I want my toon to have a boy camel-toe.
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#3 - 2014-07-01 00:50:25 UTC
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#4 - 2014-07-01 00:50:26 UTC
Some people just want to watch the world drool.


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Lido Seahawk
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-07-01 02:07:08 UTC
I'm too sexy for my Character!

May I have your stuff?

Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-07-01 02:28:32 UTC
/emote Claps slowly.

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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#7 - 2014-07-01 03:08:56 UTC
Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#8 - 2014-07-01 04:36:43 UTC
Possibly relevant

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 

Nixss
Vampire Kittens
#9 - 2014-07-01 05:02:18 UTC
You already are sexualized. Out of next 200 men you see in RL (not a gym), do they all nicely toned bodies with great pecks and amazing arms, in some cases nicely squared jaw bones, and almost perfect hairlines?

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Kaaeliaa
Tyrannos Sunset
#10 - 2014-07-01 05:04:16 UTC
Nose' Feliciano wrote:
I want my toon to have a boy camel-toe.


I believe the technical term for that is frog-eye.

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Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#11 - 2014-07-01 07:37:23 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-07-01 08:54:38 UTC
Kaaeliaa wrote:
Nose' Feliciano wrote:
I want my toon to have a boy camel-toe.


I believe the technical term for that is frog-eye.
Or moose-knuckle.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

miiral
#13 - 2014-07-01 09:16:56 UTC
Now Reaver, why exactly you had to bring this up ?
Just curious...
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-07-01 10:16:51 UTC
miiral wrote:
Now Reaver, why exactly you had to bring this up ?
Just curious...

It all started this morning when I watched a video on youtube by Thunderf00t talking about how feminists are ruining everything, and he's pointing to Anita Sarkeesian's video about video games being sexist. This is a topic covered often by Thunderf00t, and he often targets the same person, Anita Sarkeesian. This is not the first time he has made a video about this video specifically, either. Once again I got riled up that Thunderf00t, as usual, is making bold statements about feminists--feminists do this, feminists say that--basically grouping all feminists together as a bunch of ball-busting bra-burning burlesque bitches--all women of course. The very title of his video "IF Men acted like FEMINISTS!" says a lot about his stance here.

So while the rage was building within my feminist being, I took the time to consider what I agree with Anita Sarkeesian about and what I disagree with her about. While Thunderf00t likes to talk about her (and others) as radical feminists with completely and terribly extreme ideals, I'd have to say that Sarkeesian in particular is only somewhat radical. I think she makes some good points about the sexism in our culture but is failing to target it at its heart and is instead bashing some things that are overall not hurting the feminist position and are in some ways helping it. Also, she cherry-picks her points on sexism almost as much as Thunderf00t cherry-picks his points on feminism.

So I wanted to make a stern reply on her video explaining why I partially agree with her but also why I think she's mostly aiming in the wrong direction, but I can't reply to her video because she has comments disabled. So I came here to dump.

You asked, I answered. Whew! I feel a lot better now. Big smile

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Snagletooth Johnson
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-07-01 10:29:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Snagletooth Johnson
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-07-01 10:35:11 UTC
^

it's totally relevant, what are you talking about? Everyone has the right to feel sexy, even men!

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

miiral
#17 - 2014-07-01 11:05:02 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
miiral wrote:
Now Reaver, why exactly you had to bring this up ?
Just curious...

It all started this morning when I watched a video on youtube by Thunderf00t talking about how feminists are ruining everything, and he's pointing to Anita Sarkeesian's video about video games being sexist. This is a topic covered often by Thunderf00t, and he often targets the same person, Anita Sarkeesian. This is not the first time he has made a video about this video specifically, either. Once again I got riled up that Thunderf00t, as usual, is making bold statements about feminists--feminists do this, feminists say that--basically grouping all feminists together as a bunch of ball-busting bra-burning burlesque bitches--all women of course. The very title of his video "IF Men acted like FEMINISTS!" says a lot about his stance here.

So while the rage was building within my feminist being, I took the time to consider what I agree with Anita Sarkeesian about and what I disagree with her about. While Thunderf00t likes to talk about her (and others) as radical feminists with completely and terribly extreme ideals, I'd have to say that Sarkeesian in particular is only somewhat radical. I think she makes some good points about the sexism in our culture but is failing to target it at its heart and is instead bashing some things that are overall not hurting the feminist position and are in some ways helping it. Also, she cherry-picks her points on sexism almost as much as Thunderf00t cherry-picks his points on feminism.

So I wanted to make a stern reply on her video explaining why I partially agree with her but also why I think she's mostly aiming in the wrong direction, but I can't reply to her video because she has comments disabled. So I came here to dump.

You asked, I answered. Whew! I feel a lot better now. Big smile


Well good for you, watching both of those videos made me just tired Straight
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-07-01 11:17:05 UTC
miiral wrote:
Well good for you, watching both of those videos made me just tired Straight
You are stronger than I am. I couldn't finish either one.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#19 - 2014-07-01 18:18:49 UTC
WTB endgame Banana hammock armor.



Also: why is chest hair a bad thing on avatars? You just don't see much righteous man fuzz in gaming.

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Quinn Hatfield
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2014-07-01 20:08:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Quinn Hatfield
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
WTB endgame Banana hammock armor.



Also: why is chest hair a bad thing on avatars? You just don't see much righteous man fuzz in gaming.
Metrosexuals, man fuzz just isn't the norm any more.

WTB mankini, would pay good isk to see UAEs character in it.

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