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Staying safe'Ish as a miner

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#41 - 2014-06-30 10:56:41 UTC
12 cats killed sh!tfit orca and 10 cats was enough for sh!tfit skiff, more news at 11.

Now show me same numbers of cats on properly fit orca and skiff.

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Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
#42 - 2014-06-30 11:08:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarojan
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
12 cats killed sh!tfit orca and 10 cats was enough for sh!tfit skiff, more news at 11.

Now show me same numbers of cats on properly fit orca and skiff.


You think they cant do it? cos I think they can. I think at this point any smart miner has to accept they are going to lose their ship at some point and factor its loss into their business model as an operating expense. Thats what Im doing with my badgers.

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#43 - 2014-06-30 11:40:10 UTC
I think there is no chance for 12 cats to explode 260k ehp orca with 80-ish % of resist across the board. Not in hisec at least. That is all I'm saying.

Everything can and will be exploded sooner or later question is whether or not gank squad is looking only for lolz or lolz+drops+kb efficiency. Former has no price but latter is ruled by pure math of maximum gain at minimum cost. And you have better chances for drops when ganking multiple hulks with 2-3 cats each than spend them all on 1 orca. Besides for RP and PR purposes mass murdering hulks is better than proving orca gankable (which doesn't require proof as we already established everything is gankable)

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#44 - 2014-06-30 14:17:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
I think there is no chance for 12 cats to explode 260k ehp orca with 80-ish % of resist across the board. Not in hisec at least. That is all I'm saying.
The maths agree, in a 0.5 with a Concord time to kill of 19-24 seconds*, it'd require at least 21 600 dps Catalysts at 10M a pop, some people get 700+ with implants I believe.

*depending on if Concord is moved prior to the gank or not, Concord times grabbed from Tippia

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#45 - 2014-06-30 14:33:18 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
I think there is no chance for 12 cats to explode 260k ehp orca with 80-ish % of resist across the board. Not in hisec at least. That is all I'm saying.
The maths agree in a 0.5 with a Concord time to kill of 19-24 seconds, depending on whether or not the gankers move Concord prior to the gank, you'd need at least 21 600 dps Catalysts at 10M a pop, some people get 700+ with implants I believe.


And some people fly orca with links :)
Again, gankable - of course, profitable - depends, fun factor - priceless :)

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