Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I am not sure if this has been suggested already or not....I did a forums search and found nothing.....but.....

There are 2 suggestions that I have for the current 'broken' (imo) aspect of the data/relic sites......

You created the mini-game....cool. It makes them funner. I get that. In the past, you had to rely on trained skill to be able to access the loot inside the can. This system was mundane, but it worked. It reserved the loot for people who put the time into training to reap the rewards. Now, with how the system is....any noob with a scanning frig and a data analyzer can fail on the can and pop them, along with the loot and despawn the site.

I watched a 2 week year old toon fail on 3 cans right in a row last night, before I finally got fed up, made him primary and popped his ship, and his pod.......

I don't mean to sound elitist, but comeon....I didn't spend the time to train the skills I have just to have some 2 week year old toon running around failing and despawning all the sites I have trained to have success at.

Solutions -

1) make access to the mini-game dependent on skill. If they have the proper level of skill trained, then they can have access to the mini-game. If not, no dice.....it keeps the site spawned for people who have the skill to actually have success at it.

2) make the sites much harder to scan down. This would be a secondary solution, seeing as how someone can have good scanning skills, but still lack the skills to successfully hack the site.

Let the flaming begin........

So you got angry someone else got to the exploration site first and you want CCP to add artificial barriers to the game that makes those sites accessible exclusively to you?

You may have popped his ship and pod but you still sound like a carebear.

How are they broken?
And yes, someone beat you to the site and you ended up with nothing… so what? Be quicker next time.

All the people who have responded with negative comments and trolls......I will ask you one thing. What negative impact would it have on the game if CCP made this change?

You said it yourself, limiting new players.

And for what reason? an apparent "veteran" cant seem to accept that someone else simply got somewhere before him. You seem to make this desire based on the idea that having more sp than the other guy makes you more entitled to the rewards, and you should get a VIP pass to special sites just for you.

Maybe you didn't want to sound elitist, but in reality what you are asking for only seems to fall into that category.

Why do you feel because you trained some skills they should not be able to access them?

I can see what the OP is griping about but cannot justify the gripe.
In my experience you can take a ship with low virus and hack bonuses and no rigging for it even to deep nullsec and if you are good at the mini game, you can still hack the cans. After a while the mini game starts to show a pattern and you go from losing half the cans to hacking all of them.

Now for the more meritocratic amongst us, this is not going to be good:

So what I found is possible is with good mini game experience you can hack in a warp/agility rigged and double-stabbed interceptor,go just about anywhere, and hack cans. While blowing through the gank pipelines (the key is not to linger because you can traverse systems faster than they can position a disco BS once the intel channels start crying).

You will find yourself saying things like "A bubble camp. How adorable".

I have done exactly this. Yes you still lose a ship eventually, like in my case, taking a chance in a ghost site (arg! Lol) but by the time your luck runs out you will have paid for the several times over. Suffice to say you don't need to be Mr Skillpoints to do this. The mini game starts to feel kind of lame once you have mastered it like we were mastering Pac Man back in the 80's.

This post doesnt even make sense.

So, instead of skill (as in experience) you think that Skills (as in XP) are a stronger indiction of ability?

*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

You think that a counter passively counting up while you do nothing is some sort of indication of worth?

And how do you find a site without scanning skills?

And how do you hack it without hacking skills?

*Snip* Removed reply to an edited out part of the quoted post. ISD Ezwal.

Are you giving out free datacores and decryptors for my invention alt then?

It would cut off newer players from content they should have the right to attempt, and disincentivize new players from making trips into low and null, which is bad. I still fail hard archaeology cans sometimes with my archaeology at 4. Maybe its not fun for you, but even though the hacking market is crashed the relic market is still in good enough shape to prop up null exploration just fine. Also there are more than enough sites out there for both of you.

To sum up, stop being such a care bear.