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0.0 belt rat farm... what ship??

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Anormalny Sigmahor
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-06-29 05:36:15 UTC
Just got question about ship for rat farm on belt. I got some fit, info from player but them more information all the better.
So for example Vexor fit t2 will be good to farm belt rat or maybe with fit t1 he can handle with rat. I know skill... but lets say i got good skill lvl so Vexor with fit t2 and hmmm "150 railgunn II" or maybe only fitted for drone Hobgoblin 2 (other drone) and dmg ampli I + navi drone I and omni I? Or maybe other fit to farm.
Brea Lafail
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-06-29 11:17:58 UTC
Many years ago I used t1 fit Stabbers for ratting belts. I can't see why a T1 speed tanked vexor wouldn't work, just orbit one of the battleships, kill the frigs and cruisers first. The exact fit you use will depend on the type of rats, I'd probably start by trying rails with 2 mag stabs and 2 drone dmg amps, t1 rails take about 10mil off the price and only lose maybe . You will get blown up once in a while, and it's definitely not optimal isk/hr so just be prepared for that.
Carniflex
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
#3 - 2014-06-29 11:29:17 UTC
What skills you have?

Are you a friendly space or need to ninja rat?

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Anormalny Sigmahor
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-06-29 15:15:42 UTC
Not much skill... got now Noctis with t1 fit and Vex t1 fit. Drone lvl 5 and got corp with ppl but i just ask other player... better ask 2-3 more ppl like only one.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-06-30 11:44:48 UTC
Used to do it in a bomber, orbit BS's shoot frigs first. Safe and cheep :) just stay away from elite frigs!


No Worries

l0rd carlos
the king asked me to guard the mountain
#6 - 2014-06-30 12:20:01 UTC
What region do you live in? Find out what NPCs live there. You can use http://evemaps.dotlan.net/ to find that out.

That is important for drone and tank type.

Download Pyfa (https://github.com/DarkFenX/Pyfa/releases) or EFT and put yourself a Vexor fitting together that suits your needs and skills.
Start with 2x Drone Damage Amps in the lowslots and an 10mn afterburner in the midslot. Highslots are not that important, most of the damage comes from the drones.

Youtube Channel about Micro and Small scale PvP with commentary: Fleet Commentary by l0rd carlos

Anthar Thebess
#7 - 2014-06-30 12:23:48 UTC
Gila.
A bit expensive , but :
- you don't have to have lvl 5 cruiser skills
- pure passive tank
- large EHP on drones.
Hakan MacTrew
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-07-11 13:08:29 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Gila.
A bit expensive , but :
- you don't have to have lvl 5 cruiser skills
- pure passive tank
- large EHP on drones.

Not to mention massive DPS for the hull size.
Sinnish Saken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-07-21 02:25:08 UTC
Looooove my Gila. Cant wait to farm out the isk next weekend to refill my wallet. What is it about 4 digits at once that makes me giddy? Twisted
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#10 - 2014-07-22 12:33:11 UTC
perfect skills 380DPS from gila drones... guys, get an ishtar :|
l0rd carlos
the king asked me to guard the mountain
#11 - 2014-07-22 12:35:11 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:
perfect skills 380DPS from gila drones... guys, get an ishtar :|


I much doubt that.
What drones did you use?

Youtube Channel about Micro and Small scale PvP with commentary: Fleet Commentary by l0rd carlos

Hakan MacTrew
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-07-22 15:08:39 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:
perfect skills 380DPS from gila drones... guys, get an ishtar :|

All lvl 5 skills, No mods

Gila - 500% bonus to 2 Hammerhead II Medium Drones = 380dps
Ishtar - 50% bonus to 5 Garde II Sentry Drones = 421

So, the Gila will apply this damage to smaller targets much easier than the Sentries, not to mention the lack of range dictation requirements. Tanking the Gila also does not impact its ability to fit Drone Damage Amps...

1 x amp
Gila = 468 dps
Ishtar = 518 dps

And that is about all the Ishtar can fit, but the Gila can fit another 2 on top:

3 x amp
Gila = 635 dps

I'll keep flying my Gila thanks, even if PL will drop Nyx's on them...
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#13 - 2014-07-22 15:35:35 UTC
[Procurer, rat hunter]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Medium Shield Booster II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Medium Shield Extender II

Strip Miner I

Medium Drone Speed Augmentor I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5


219 DPS, 43kEHP, what else do you need?
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#14 - 2014-07-22 16:58:17 UTC
Dual rep Vexor is one of my favourite belt-ratting ships. It's a proper PvP fit with no compromise for PvE while having solid dps and tank to easily deal with belt rats. This is the fit I used:

[Vexor, Active Armor PvP]

Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800

Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M

Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I


Ogre II x2
Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x1
Hornet EC-300 x5
Hobgoblin II x5

Does 563dps (601 with heat) with Void + 2x Ogre/2x Hammers/1x Hobs which is plenty to break the tanks of most NPC rats (I've actually recently encountered a Mordus Battleship spawn and I managed to break it's tank although it took me around 15 minutes and I ran out of cap boosters). I always carry standard exile when flying this which gives you 778dps overheated tank. Against all other lowsec rats such as Clone Soliders or regular spawns, you can easily tank the dps on just the T2 repper and without cap boosting so you'll usually have plenty of cap boosters/a full load of repair paste when you get into an actual fight. All this and it's very PvP capable and really cheap (37mil fully fitted).
Saya Hecatonchires
Sons of Caldari
#15 - 2014-07-24 08:25:24 UTC
I personnaly use a shielded vexor with OgreII and medium autocannon II. (maximise damage to serpentis, the NPC located in my area)

about 700dps on paper, good tank and cost less than 35M fitted and rigged.

And due to the high pvp activity in this area, it's better to farm with a low cost ship.
Always the same risk vs reward in null...

Was using the old version of the gila but loose it in a 1 vs15 intygang gank ^^

Rat safe o7


Only rabbit can do the job ! let's go rabbit, jump and go !!

zulu Twlight
Ferric Chloride
#16 - 2014-08-10 10:58:49 UTC
Hakan MacTrew wrote:
Maeltstome wrote:
perfect skills 380DPS from gila drones... guys, get an ishtar :|

All lvl 5 skills, No mods

Gila - 500% bonus to 2 Hammerhead II Medium Drones = 380dps
Ishtar - 50% bonus to 5 Garde II Sentry Drones = 421

So, the Gila will apply this damage to smaller targets much easier than the Sentries, not to mention the lack of range dictation requirements. Tanking the Gila also does not impact its ability to fit Drone Damage Amps...

1 x amp
Gila = 468 dps
Ishtar = 518 dps

And that is about all the Ishtar can fit, but the Gila can fit another 2 on top:

3 x amp
Gila = 635 dps

I'll keep flying my Gila thanks, even if PL will drop Nyx's on them...


Why do people only think you can fit armor on a ishtar?

4x amps on ishtar plus 250mm railguns = 935 dps (use the rails with spike to snipe, or javelin for frigates)

he would be belt ratting even with a omni tank, the fit would come out cheaper than the gila.