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So what's keeping you from moving to Null Sec
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Garresh
Mackies Raiders
Wild Geese.
#141 - 2014-06-28 08:58:53 UTC
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
Maybe I was a bit negative in my previous post, and didn't mention that another reason not to want to make this move again is the abundance of healthy alternatives. Lowsec has been massively buffed over the last few years in terns of income probability and right now, I can wholeheartedly say I can make more ISK/Hr in lowsec then I can in nullsec (with my SP which is mainly PVP oriented anyway).

Isn't it crafty how CCP tried to cover many playstyles in their MMO? Carebear, roguelike, conquest... it's up to you how you play. I enjoy video games and I might go as far as to call myself a hardcore gamer, but I don't have any incentive to set alarm clocks for a video game. It's fine to leave nullsec to the empire builders that have the time, you don't have to get involved in any of that.

I apologize if any previous comments sounded hostile on a personal level. I recently had a conversation with a corpmate about emergent gameplay, and how it was cool our insignificant corporation almost reached it's 2nd birthday and was still content setting the tone in a lowsec area. It warms my heart to see a group of people sharing their knowledge and most of all, a common philosophy and respect for one another. We've been in nullsec together and hated it. Part of our hostility towards null entities is off course based on their meddling in lowsec (aka claiming all profitable moons, every attemt to go past RF = titan drop) in predictable fashion, but also a difference in philosophy and chances to commit time (the latter I blame mostly on CCP, not the sov owners).

I'd also like to stress that getting involved in politics is a matter of opening your mouth on Teamspeak. This has no bearing on what type of space your group enjoys, but your willingness to interact and your actual social skills.


Just out of curiosity, whats that new source of lowsec income? Got back from hiatus recently and most of my initial fundraising for a pvp binge has been in null. It seemed to me the lowsec exploration market has crashed, and there were complaints on fw income.

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Sykaotic
Doomheim
#142 - 2014-06-28 09:20:17 UTC
Been there done that.... extremely boring + they come to me i.e. hot drop a Titan on my cruiser in low sec.



Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#143 - 2014-06-28 10:26:27 UTC
I'd luv to go back to Null. But there is too much hassle to try to get into a corp...
Obunagawe
#144 - 2014-06-28 11:27:39 UTC
I don't want to be a feudal serf.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#145 - 2014-06-28 11:36:40 UTC
Obunagawe wrote:
I don't want to be a feudal serf.


So don't be.
Jawls Rohn
Neon Incorporated
#146 - 2014-06-28 11:55:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Jawls Rohn
Currently live in NPC Null. I like it there.

Wouldn't want to move to Sov Null as I'm not a fan of the station mechanics. I like being able to dock in any station I choose (couldn't do Provi as wouldn't live by NRDS).

Also like the easy route I've got back to hisec for buying ships etc, so I'm not wholly beholden on local markets or corp level logistics.
Bael Malefic
Doomheim
#147 - 2014-06-28 12:08:00 UTC
Jawls Rohn wrote:
Currently live in NPC Null. I like it there.

Wouldn't want to move to Sov Null as I'm not a fan of the station mechanics. I like being able to dock in any station I choose (couldn't do Provi as wouldn't live by NRDS).

Also like the easy route I've got back to hisec for buying ships etc, so I'm not wholly beholden on local markets or corp level logistics.


I am in the same boat. The negative is NPC null being crap as far as ISK earning. The positives are freedom to play as casually/occasionally as I like is no need to pay homage/rent so a bunch of wannabe internet space tyrants.

There's actually plenty of PVP opportunities in Provi even when you abide by NRDS. Just roam the pipes with the KOS checker open in another window and listen to intel channels. Usually plenty of folks to shoot at if that's your thing.
rogue Aldebaran
Rogue Fleet
#148 - 2014-06-28 12:16:37 UTC
Because null sec "sov transfer" wars are boring!
Arkady Romanov
Whole Squid
#149 - 2014-06-28 12:34:54 UTC
rogue Aldebaran wrote:
Because null sec "sov transfer" wars are boring!


Infinitely better than grinding them all.

Whole Squid: Get Inked.
Black Panpher
CastleKickers
Rote Kapelle
#150 - 2014-06-28 12:45:58 UTC
Drag bubbles.
rogue Aldebaran
Rogue Fleet
#151 - 2014-06-28 13:14:35 UTC
Arkady Romanov wrote:
rogue Aldebaran wrote:
Because null sec "sov transfer" wars are boring!


Infinitely better than grinding them all.


Sounds like you are having SO MUCH fun atm !
Arkady Romanov
Whole Squid
#152 - 2014-06-28 13:21:25 UTC
I am. I just don't care for structure grinding. Everything else about SOV null is great.

Whole Squid: Get Inked.
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#153 - 2014-06-28 13:51:49 UTC
I want to play when I want, where I want, as briefly as I want, and not have to meet the wants and needs of anyone else. Or even talk to them.
Matilda Cecilia Fock
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#154 - 2014-06-28 14:16:52 UTC
Unezka Turigahl wrote:
I want to play when I want, where I want, as briefly as I want, and not have to meet the wants and needs of anyone else. Or even talk to them.


Heh. My thoughts, more or less.

Q: Should we be worried? A: Nope. (...) Worry a lot if Fozzie, Masterplan, Rise, Veritas, Bettik, Ytterbium, Scarpia, Arrow, or even Greyscale leaves. Worry a little if Punkturis, karkur, SoniClover, Affinity, Goliath, or Xhagen leaves.
Baron' Soontir Fel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#155 - 2014-06-28 15:17:15 UTC
1) Interceptor warp speeds.

2) The absence of anybody in local for 20 jumps.

3) Can't get pods out

4) Logistics of getting new ships/modules into null sec.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#156 - 2014-06-28 15:29:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyrrashae
See my sig.

E:

And because **** them, that's why.

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Hra Neuvosto
Party Cat Enterprises
#157 - 2014-06-28 15:58:03 UTC
Lots of angry people who weren't good enough to get into 0.0 in this thread.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#158 - 2014-06-28 16:23:21 UTC
Lyrrashae wrote:
See my sig.

E:

And because **** them, that's why.


You sig demonstrates someone who doesn't know how to pick a proper null sec corporation lol.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#159 - 2014-06-28 16:26:15 UTC
Shouldn't ask if you can't handle answers.

Also if null is so awesome why are you so concern about people living in all other areas? If there is so much fun and things to do there why do you care about us, miserable bastards wasting our time and money elsewhere?

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#160 - 2014-06-28 16:32:55 UTC
Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:


4) Logistics of getting new ships/modules into null sec.


This is important for a reason you probably don't even see.

It's easier now than ever to get into and out of null sec. When i started there were no T3 cruiser and interceptors that could ignore bubbles, no wormholes either. you wanted into null you jumped in an expensive jump capable ship or you fought your way past gates. Before my time, players didn't even have jump capable ships and the ONLY way in was via camped gates.

This is important because it displays to CCP something thats true in every aspect of the game: No matter HOW easy you make things, it will never be easy enough for some.

You make null access so easy anyone can do it, it will STILL be to hard for most. You buff exhumers to the point where ganking them is hard, people,still won't use them that way, will still die and will still complain about gankers. you mkae high sec safer with crime watch and safeties andand do all these nice things to help the "NPE" and 'new people' will still think the game is too hard and to unsafe etc etc etc.

A guy with a tengu and acnhoring lvl 1 (so they can anchor a can) can (if he's willing to make 3-4 trips to empire every 6 weeks or so in a cargo expanded covert/nullified fit) can set up shop in null and pve his ass to riches for a long time. Solo..... Casually.... Long in when you want, log off when you want.

How many people do that, out of 400+k accounts in EVE? Maybe a handful.