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This. I can't believe they are going to implement this system where you can't really predict your production costs. But here we are. Based on what is on the test server I think it may be a good idea to just take the summer off and let this **** show that they insist on implementing run its course.

This quote from the Freighters/JFs rebalance thread indicated that post-Crius a Jump Fuel Conservation module would be incoming, either for capitals in general or just for JFs.

Can we get some clarification and specifications on this extremely tantalizing piece of information?

So, basically, they pushed back the industry changes for 2 months....to release pretty much the same incomplete, barely tested crap? Awesomesauce.

It was never part of Kronos and Crius

LOL, go to SISI and test instead of whining.

Report bugs and tell what You dont like.

Its on SISI fro two weeks and will be for three more thats a ton of times to fix stuff if someone will report them instead of going OMG ITS BROKEN, ROLL BACK

Yes You can, just log in and try it out. Select BPO (even if You dont have it) and chose a system and there You go - all costs are shown.

There's been some testing. It is currently a mess on SISI, very unlikely it'll be anywhere near ready on release.

Good dev blog. Short and to the point with links, pics, -1 for no graphs. j/k

I'm astounded at all the tears in the thread. The framework has been laid. Bugs arte being ironed out. We still have 4 weeks to go. Plenty of time to get the little things done.

I for one would like an API endpoint so we can pull system usage and cost info for cost predictions.

And to the person crying about how they can't see the potential results of their research... its 1% per ME level and 2% per TE level. How hard is that to understand? Base cost of mineral(s) * (1-ME). Bust out a spreadsheet and do some math.

Part of what ? next year expansion..

Initial impressions from an industry newb (from Sisi as of 28June):

I was on Sisi, never done industry before, so I thought I'd try my first manufacturing effort to try out the new UI. Overall impression was great. I had briefly looked at industry before, but was never grabbed by it. The new interface will definitely help change that for newer players. My very first impressions:

- Estimated price of the output was easy to see, but didn't see the total estimated cost of all inputs (actually found this once I did my second job). Maybe make the circle around the arrows the same darker blue as the bars under the input products to hint that mousing over will give more info?

- expected some sort of tooltip when I moused over the blueprint icon in the center. Maybe show total estimated profit / run with current blueprint/skills and team, and under that the estimated profit with perfect blueprint/skills and a top team? That would motivate people to train skills, research blueprints and bid for teams.

- along the same lines, the six activity-type buttons all say "activity not supported at this facility" when something isn't available. The tech III buttons could nudge people toward starbase ownership by saying "activity requires a starbase with an Experimental Laboratory", etc (I'm assuming tech III can't be done in a regular station anywhere).

- System cost index: not clear what the difference between the dark blue and the light blue is. I assume the dark is the standard cost, which has been reduced for some reason and the light blue is the effective cost index? Maybe a tool-tip to show the causal factors.

- I tried to bid for a team, typed in my current system (which had no team) and put in some numbers for a price, button stayed greyed out. Presumably this just isn't implemented yet. And hopefully the system text box will become a drop-down to list systems (or at least auto-complete). Really, clicking on the empty 'team' icon above the blueprint should open a window with two sides, all the available teams on the left, and the ability to drag them into your system on the right. Then a pop-up asking how much you're willing to bid.

Final thoughts:
1. As a non-industrialist I liked it, and I think it has made me more interested in trying the various industry paths.

2. Industry has always needed a numbered list of steps to lower the barrier to entry, with an obvious "start here" button and an even more obvious "steps 2-4" path. But you could create one just by changing the labels of the menu tabs for "Blueprints - Facilities - Jobs - Teams". Change it to "1. Select Blueprint", "2. Select Facility" , "3. Monitor Jobs", "4. Find a Team" (the team part doesn't really flow, maybe separate that tab). In addition to changing the label, change the shape to rightward arrows to show it's a process.
The dedicated industry guys would hate this, seeing it as a dumbing down (which it is). But they'll like selling to the new players who get hooked on Eve, and we'll all like blowing up their indy's full of newly manufactured supplies.

3. profit.

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