Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Don't forget that warp engine creates a drag on space even when not in warp. The point I am making is that eve physics have little relevance to real life and for storyline purposes everthing exists for a reason. There's probably a very good reason why the minmatar built the ship that way, but we all know it's that's way because the dev's liked the look of it.

This would be more fitting for a caracal hull, TBH. It's also slightly too thin for a caldari design. It's a lot more like Mordu's ships, in fact.

For once, the bird/spaceship analogy might have some use if it finally gives spaceships the heat radiators that they all should have. The laws of thermodynamics are quite explicitly stated to apply in the EVE universe, but it appears that only the minmatar engineers know about them...

You don't just draw a straight line through the thrust axis, because what you''re assuming there is that the entire ship has uniform mass to volume. That's not the way a real spaceship works. There might be relatively hollow parts or super dense and massive machinery in certain locations while not in others. The engines only have to make sense according to the placement of mass.

I'm sure that wasn't too much of a consideration when designing the way the thing looks (or maybe it was) but the point is that the engine placement does not have to look visually balanced with the profile of the ship.

Actually they do. But obviously not the same way as your garden variety radiator.

That's pretty much what I was talking about. Balance is what matters. i'm not talking about symmetry. Also, we shouldn't confuse the main thrust axis with each individual thruster's thrust axis. The main thrust axis takes into account the balancing of the different main thrusters, if there are more than one. In the case of three thrusters each placed in a triangle at an equal distance from one another, the main thrust axis goes through the center, not through any of them.

The thing is that volume is generally associated with mass, especially if said volume requires additional mass to contain. Bulkheads that contain negligible mass are a dead weight. That's why real spaceships carry gases in liquid or solid state, making propellant tanks very dense parts that still take up the majority of the volume of the ship, regardless of the propulsion system. So, if there is a big part of the hull that sticks out only on one side and apparently isn't balanced by anything on the other side, it would be safe to assume that it doesn't have a negligible mass.

It is totally possible to have a ship with an uneven thruster layout, though the mass layout and design needs to be balanced accordingly and vice-versa.

In the case of the slasher, it is pretty much impossible to have denser parts above the thrust axis to balance out the lower hull part because there is nothing above the thrust axis. Pretty much half of the volume is in line with the main thrust axis, and the other half is far below it. Either half of the hull weighs practically nothing (in which case, why have huge hulls that contain nothing?), or half of the mass is spread out in a tiny portion of the hull only slightly above the engines... It's rather unlikely. If the lower part of the hull was simply in front of the engine part, it would look more functional and believable, even if it would still be built like a plane and not like a spaceship.

I think it's called black body radiation.

Caldari BC's and BS's look sweet.
Caracal's a bit too thin for my tastes but really I only think the BB and Corax need a facelift.

BB should not look like it was made in an 8-bit game.
And the Corax should not look like a submarine. It's too ungainly, slow, and fat to look that sleek.

I sense sarcasm...

Yes, please.

I know some people are fond of the assymetry, but the current blackbird model is plain hideous. And now that the Moa is no longer the briefcase-carrying duck, this thing is a strong contender for the throne of ugliest model in EVE.

With the new Mordu ships being very thin and sleek, that ship design for caldari would make a lot of sense and add a great deal of similarities between the two factions.

As it is, most Caldari ships are very beefy (in their blocky way) which is vastly different to Mordu ships.


Speaking of redesigning ships, the Minmartar need some love too! Especially their cruiser collection.