EVE New Citizens Q&A

Vindicator

basic cheap starter ship - megathron
advanced expensive ship - vindicator


also have a read here :-
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Vanguard_Incursion_fits
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Assault_Incursion_fits
http://incursions.nexsoft.de/?mode=guide&id=3

So people have told you Vindicator... while yes that is a great ship in incursions, chances are you're not going to have the cash to buy and properly fit one before you're ready to do incursions (it will cost over 1 billion isk). Even if you had it, you probably don't want to invest that much Isk into a ship for an activity that you have no experience with. People do lose ships in incursions sometimes. I recommend starting smaller before diving into a blingy pirate faction battleship like the Vindicator.

One thing about Gallente is that their ships tend to favor armor tanking, but if you want to get into incursions, you want to have good shield tanking skills. There is at least one group that does armor-based incursion fleets, but pretty much everyone else does shield and you'll have a much easier time getting into it that way. So, I recommend getting your shield tanking skills up as you go. As far as Gallente ships good for incursion, well the Megathron is not actually that popular in shield fleets. The ship you want to look at is actually the Hyperion.

Gallente ships can't* shield tank

* - there are exceptions, such as the Ishtar, none of which are suited for incursions.


Incursion sites are quite easy, but the sort of people that run them the most in highsec are extremely efficiency-oriented. So 'good enough to win but not good enough to win fast' isn't accepted at all.

Either you guys haven't flown incursions or you have and did poor job. Not really judging or anything, but the facts aren't lying. There is only 1 armor incursion fleet running and when they run, they usually do VG's and not Headquarters. Shields incursions just work better, they apply the DPS better, since they don't require the low slots for armor. The mid slots only need resists, like two adaptives, maybe a Large Shield extender and resist rigs.

As an experienced incursion runner with Warp To Me, Hyperions, Rokhs, Tempest Fleet Issues regularly get accepted into the fleet, if you meet the requirements of 100k EHP (EFT) and +70% on all resists. Warp To Me is also very friendly to new players and accept everyone based on x-ing up and don't put friends before strangers.

Unless this all changed the last two months, the best ships you can fly are still the Vindicator (Close range, blasters), Nightmare (All ranges, Tachyon) and the Machariel (Either 800mm for close range or 1400mm for long range). If you listen to the Fleet commander, ship losses are minimum. I have never lost a ship when flying an incursion and I have been doing them for several months already.

Not in the position to check in-game, but there is a channel which lists all of the incursion channels you can check out. Most incursion communities have fitting programs which you can follow accordingly.

I have also been advised that a Megathron is an excellent incursion starter when fitted correctly.

there is a channel that regularly recruits for incursion fleets that of course I cannot remember right now, but they will give you excellent advice on fitting and fleet composition

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To be honest, it's not. Atleast, not the normal one. The Fleet Issue can be used.