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Violent Grey
Illicit Expo
#1 - 2014-06-23 16:50:37 UTC
So, I am curious to explore the different ways you can run anoms in c5 and c6 whs. What methods or strategy do you use? How many of you solo these sites? How many alts do you need? I was thinking in investing in two dreads, two carriers, and a loki for solo multi box fun... Would love some positive feedback.
Keizer Kip
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-06-23 17:17:56 UTC
One way -> cap escalations times 4 the rest is irrelevant.

One takes one carrier and put it in site,drop mobile tractor unit, couple of web/paint loki's and a tagger. Carrier reps lokis.
Warp in as many dreads as you can to do it in 1 siege cycle and blap sleepers as fastas you can.
When killed the first 5 or so bs, warp in second carrier for last spawn, killem all.

Dont kill site trigger or you are wasting time. Kill bs only, warp to next site and repeat.
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#3 - 2014-06-23 17:41:18 UTC
How to do it solo with a dread

This process can be expanded on into doing full escalations with just caps but it does take more time then the traditional way with webs.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-06-23 23:12:42 UTC
http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/2013/09/jacks-guide-to-running-sleeper-sites.html

You'll need a fleet booster too.

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Angsty Teenager
Broski North
#5 - 2014-06-24 00:15:55 UTC
I would suggest not solo multiboxing a quad or triple escalation. Quite doable, but frankly it's not worth the effort to pay attention to 5-6 clients.
Remy Nolen
Sama Guild
#6 - 2014-06-25 05:09:21 UTC
Multiboxing isn't that hectic when you have at least 3 monitors.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-06-25 06:42:21 UTC
I run it on 2 screens with 4 clients +minimized booster. Works fine.
I have 1 toon that just warp in the second carrier and dread and then straight out which cuts down on a client and realistically doesnt slow you down at all since there's only so much you can do to speed the site up when doing it solo.

If possible, do find someone to run them with you though. 2 people makes the whole process MUCH easier and cuts a siege cycle off your time generally.

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Violent Grey
Illicit Expo
#8 - 2014-06-27 04:53:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Violent Grey
Hmm, Interesting replies. Thank you.

I was considering

archon - 1st carrier

niddy - 2nd carrier

Moros - 1st dps

Moros 2nd dps

Rapier/Loki/Noctis



I was looking at a program called ISBoxer... :P

I had run some escalations with a wh gang, but that was a while ago. IDK if mechanics have changed, or which ones, and I need to read into that for more information. I was the second carrier for the first few times I had participated. Also, I did a bit of webbing and target painting with the loki. I had never actually did any repping or shooting, but did salvage and watch the hole a lot... Also when I first got into the niddy, I was second carrier cause of my lower capital ship support skills.

I know I can do this, it may be very well dumb to post this and go out there with ten bil worth of assets and play carebear... lol but that is what I love the most about Eve. Its just a game, at times, but its mostly serious Internet spaceships business... :P I do wish carriers and or dreads and rorquals could fit thru a c4 wh... That would be most ideal for my skill level and experience with running multiple clients with that much ISK on the field.

I have been practicing getting my carrier around and running anoms with with, along with another player. But the sites are getting redundant and not so risky, even while dodging the hostiles of sov null. The deeper I go into Null, the better the sites I find and the more lucrative the experience is. This is what I loved about WH space... I do miss the guys and gals of Bite Me Inc. , The Elysian Horde, and The-Golden-Path. I remember being pushy to my ceo of TGP to take us to WH space... :) The site value is tolerant with class 4 systems, for the amount of ISK Im more willing to put on the field in one go, a lot can go wrong real fast, and I have been lucky thus far, but one day I dread, a dread.... no pun intended. Anyway,

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Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#9 - 2014-06-27 05:13:54 UTC
Isboxer wouldn't be terribly useful for this. Isboxer is good for things where cloning a ship is beneficial. The only ships you could clone in c5 escalations is the dreads and webs. It would be stupid to clone webs since you only need one webber. The only other advantage to isboxer is instant switching which really comes down to how many monitors you have.
Violent Grey
Illicit Expo
#10 - 2014-06-27 05:47:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Violent Grey
I have only one monitor, but its huge... I can fit 4 screens on here easy, So even linking the moros to one group and the carriers to another wouldnt work well huh? lol warp two carrier and two dreads in at the same time and go pop? :P plus the loki would be alone yeah. ok well soon Ill have two more screens, and a new gpu, I can run up 6 accounts effectively I feel if I had 3 screens... each monitor I would alt tab to swap to an alt.

I am checking out isboxer right now... doesnt look like it would be much help with this... :(
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#11 - 2014-06-27 05:59:28 UTC
4 escalation waves is about 20k dps and lots of neuts. You will have a bad time if you warp only 2 dreads, 2 carriers and a loki in. Read how to run escalation the proper way (see jack's post) and decide how useful isboxer will be for you.
Violent Grey
Illicit Expo
#12 - 2014-06-27 15:31:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Violent Grey
The guide Jack had posted is amazing! I had come across this once before and have been looking for it forever. lol. Ok, I remember some of this in practice with a prior gang, but most of it is news to me. Thank you for sharing :)

I found this intriguing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4zmXjrGcYI

Could a moros do this, like the nag?
Violent Grey
Illicit Expo
#13 - 2014-06-27 16:03:52 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
I run it on 2 screens with 4 clients +minimized booster. Works fine.
I have 1 toon that just warp in the second carrier and dread and then straight out which cuts down on a client and realistically doesnt slow you down at all since there's only so much you can do to speed the site up when doing it solo.

If possible, do find someone to run them with you though. 2 people makes the whole process MUCH easier and cuts a siege cycle off your time generally.



I guess I can, but I would like to try it solo first. Thanks. :)
Van Steiza
Whale Girth
Touched by the Tism
#14 - 2014-06-27 16:06:47 UTC
Violent Grey wrote:
The guide Jack had posted is amazing! I had come across this once before and have been looking for it forever. lol. Ok, I remember some of this in practice with a prior gang, but most of it is news to me. Thank you for sharing :)

I found this intriguing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4zmXjrGcYI

Could a moros do this, like the nag?



A moros can do it perfectly fine, you just need to make sure the fit is in order.

I personally do this in an armor nag all the time however I use 3 additional caps to escalate the site at range.
So in effect I run a quad escalation in a single dread making 650m average per site.

I personally use the armor nag doing quad escalations due to not having to change shield mods out the mids for cap mods which can slow you down however if you plan on doing SINGLE escalations there is nothign wrong with doing it with a shield nag.

Its a very efficient way of rage isk making so you need not do it regularly and can pvp more instead! You will never have more than one capital on the field either which leaves less to **** up with. It requires paying alot of attention however to sigs/directoinal scanner and refitting constantly so it is not easy.

Calmatt
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-06-27 18:49:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Calmatt
Angsty Teenager wrote:
I would suggest not solo multiboxing a quad or triple escalation. Quite doable, but frankly it's not worth the effort to pay attention to 5-6 clients.


I used to triple escalate with only 3 accounts. Very double, but the second screen definitely helps. ~ 1.8-2.2b/hour (once non-trigger waves have been cleared after the first day)
ArchAngael
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-06-27 18:57:46 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/2013/09/jacks-guide-to-running-sleeper-sites.html

You'll need a fleet booster too.


That is an awesome guide, thanks.

How has Phoenix dps has changed in this situation since the buff (thinking specifically of the dps graph in that post)?

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Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#17 - 2014-06-27 19:34:09 UTC
Phoenix won't be able to hit sleeper bs for **** even with triple 90% webs and all the target painters you want.
forsot
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#18 - 2014-06-27 22:49:54 UTC
Aquila Sagitta wrote:
Phoenix won't be able to hit sleeper bs for **** even with triple 90% webs and all the target painters you want.


Have you tried it? To my knowlage the biggest issue with phoenix was not applying the dps so much as haveing to wait to apply the dps. A rapier with 2 webs and 4 paints will help a phoenix more then any amount of 90% webs.