EVE General Discussion

I agree, that sounds awful. When I hear about swarms of Ishkur so thick they blot out sun... I'll take a day trip with an empty clone.

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I agree, but Low has the benefit of not requiring a great deal of attention. In Null there's CTAs, doctrines, and politics which is a time waster. In W-space there's logitistics and the time investment of mandatory scans and sweeps, plus checking out your neighbors every day. I started in high, then moved to a solo w-space investment 6 months into Eve, and then "retired" after 18 months out there. I wander through low and null most of the time now, but keep my standings high enough to return to Highsec for supplies as needed. You make a very good point, but with IRL being the beast that it is, I just honestly can't commit that much time to mandatory operations to keep a station afloat these days, or I'd be out in w-space again.

There is, it's called having your friends in null scan down a wormhole chain.

If you don't have 'friends' you trust with that task, there's always alts.

Well....having some kind of awareness and watching local is probably part of playing anywhere...thoose pesky gankers around...

...but yeah...the rest of it probably applies....

Apparently I've been living in a bubble. I didn't realise there were so many bad null corps out there.

Primarily I want no part of a really big null sec alliance, I couldn't care less who has sov and would not be willing to watch the slide show to defend it. That, in turn means I will not be using a large alliance's logistical chain to move things in for me. So I won't be living in null now or in the foreseeable future.

Living near high sec but in low is barely even inconvenient at the worst of times and it's fairly easy to move assets in an out. Null sec is not so convenient even when you can use an alliance's logisitics as you will generally have to wait for them to get enough orders to justify a run or scheduled times. At least that was my experience living in a null sec alliance previously. That being said there is no real reason I won't go to null sec for a day trip and do go there on occasion, but as I rarely use bubbles or bombs even when I do go to null, so there isn't that much of a draw for me. Particularly with wormholes direct low -> null being a lot more common there is more reason for me to go to null if a WH is found but much of the time these lead to completely empty sections of deep null sec which makes for decent ISK but poor PvP.

In essence the WH spawns mean that most days I already have some PvP and most decent PvE content from null sec when I want it without any of the strings attached to living there. Granted my use of null sec for any purpose is considerably more subject to chance, but it's hardly guaranteed to go well because you live there.

As for null being an "endgame", I've never bought into that. I find the concept of an endgame at all to be somewhat anathema to what EVE is. There is no end. Null serves its purpose for those who are interested, I do not fall into that category so I'm not bothered with it. W-space, Low and High all have their uses as well and low falls closest to what I'm after which is smallish scale PvP. When I was new to this game, I thought going to null really said something about you as a player, but it doesn't. Reality has an almost infinite capacity to resist over simplification. There are good players everywhere, there are bad players everywhere. There are kamikaze and extremely risk adverse players everywhere. What space you choose to live in is no comment on who you are as a pilot.

There are no random mining barges, missioning battleships, or probing T3's in nullsec.

And bubbles. So. Many. Bubbles.

I guess some people just never learn that there are jump clones in the game.

Null sec in my opinion require a lot of gaming time, as in being online and do stuff, to be made worth. Also logistic are an issue, as at the end of the day you always try to haul back to highsec, you lack the indipendence to set your own goal and paces and you might be forced into sides of the gameplay you might not be in the mood at the moment, or simply that cannot attend at that particular moment.

In my case, i've dire work hours, and there are many of my eveninings where I'm too tired to do most of the stuffs you might end up doing in null. Simply put, high sec require less tending in my eyes and best fit to my casual gaming times.

I'm not a risk adversed carebear, I do my low sec exploratikn roams, or ninja mining in Wh space, or even some small sized pvp FW, just being in high sec allow me to pick better the moment when I'm up for it, simply in a dimension of free time and mood.

Before people complain, would you go play soccer with friends if you are dead tired and you have wake up early next morning? Some might, some other wont.