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Why do faction war missions pay better than faction war plexing?
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Paul Tsukaya
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-06-25 03:38:32 UTC
Plexing creates more PvP content than missions do, so why do missions pay better?

Also C3 wormholes create more PvP content than highsec level 4 missions do, so why do highsec level 4 missions pay better?
Bloody Slave
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-06-25 04:00:00 UTC
Also station trading creates zero PvP content, why do it pay better?

Also scamming generates zero PvP content, why do it pay better?

The list goes on but I will refrain from posting it to not derail this nerf high sec thread of yours.Blink

If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD)
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#3 - 2014-06-25 04:04:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Bloody Slave wrote:
I will refrain from posting it to not derail this nerf high sec thread of yours.Blink

FW mission payouts are not related to nerfing highsec.

You seem like a Dinsdale Disciple.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#4 - 2014-06-25 05:18:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Bloody Slave wrote:
Also station trading creates zero PvP content, why do it pay better?
Also scamming generates zero PvP content, why do it pay better?
Why do two inherently PvP things pay better? Because they're inherently PvP and creates nothing but PvP content, probably. After all, in such situations, the players are the one who set the pay-out, and the sky is the limit for how high they'll set it.

Quote:
The list goes on but I will refrain from posting it to not derail this nerf high sec thread of yours.
So not only do you not understand what “PvP” stands for, you also don't understand what FW and highsec is, seeing as how you think they are in any way related.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2014-06-25 05:47:25 UTC
Bloody Slave wrote:
Also station trading creates zero PvP content

Station trading is PVP.

Bloody Slave wrote:
Also scamming generates zero PvP content

Scamming is PVP.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#6 - 2014-06-25 06:00:29 UTC
Tippia wrote:
So not only do you not understand what “PvP” stands for, you also don't understand what FW and highsec is, seeing as how you think they are in any way related.

There is a small connection between FW and hisec though, namely the lack of CONCORD response when members of opposing militia's should meet in hisec. Probably a rare occurance with everybody and their mom having a hauling alt, but the mechanics are there to facilitate open PVP in hisec. Why do I point this out? Because people like to sit on top of trade hubs and tank the Faction Navy for some reason.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-06-25 06:16:18 UTC
because fw missions are broken and weren't touched in the rebalance of fw. i doubt they were meant to be this blitzable in a t2-fit stealth bomber, of all ships. the payout wouldn't be so huge if they weren't. fw mission runners pick up a dozen missions at once and run them all in one trip in 1-2 stealth bomber alts

last i remember hearing about fw missions was some csm minutes where they were discussing the difficulty of catching the runners. ccp said something like 'fw is a combination of pve and pvp, we don't think we can force people to pvp' which i guess has little to do with the topic of rewards or sb blitzing. still, it'd explain their refusal to address the snorefest of alt plex farming. that's assuming my memory's correct regarding the quote, which i'm too lazy to produce a source for.

the big payouts from highsec level fours are also from blitzing missions
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#8 - 2014-06-25 06:56:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Benny Ohu wrote:
because fw missions are broken and weren't touched in the rebalance of fw. i doubt they were meant to be this blitzable in a t2-fit stealth bomber, of all ships. the payout wouldn't be so huge if they weren't. fw mission runners pick up a dozen missions at once and run them all in one trip in 1-2 stealth bomber alts

last i remember hearing about fw missions was some csm minutes where they were discussing the difficulty of catching the runners. ccp said something like 'fw is a combination of pve and pvp, we don't think we can force people to pvp' which i guess has little to do with the topic of rewards or sb blitzing. still, it'd explain their refusal to address the snorefest of alt plex farming. that's assuming my memory's correct regarding the quote, which i'm too lazy to produce a source for.

the big payouts from highsec level fours are also from blitzing missions


But you know, that is LP gain in the first place, not ISK, so you are not contributing to inflation, for most time you are lowering the prices on something if it is available in vast quantities. You have to buy something from loyalty point store to sell it in Jita, and there you can get ganked. But I agree that those amounts in lvl4 blitzable fw misssions are incredible, way off the reasonable levels, I would cut them in half and see what can people do with it (that's not really important to me).

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Bloody Slave
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2014-06-25 17:53:59 UTC
It seems my post just hit some nerve out there, LoL.

Unfortunately, some people only read the title and not the OP to make a comment and don't read any other posts of the one (in this case, me) they are quoting.

I do know what PvP stands for, perfectly. The real problem is that some folks don't have a single clue about sarcasm. Blink

I will try to put the sarcasm on/off signal next time, I promise.

(sarcasm on)

Scammers, station traders, FW off grid boosting are all very PvP focused and don't generate that much pay...

(sarcasm off)

Don't talk about it or you will hit some nerves.

If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD)
Bloody Slave
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-06-25 18:08:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Bloody Slave
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Bloody Slave wrote:
I will refrain from posting it to not derail this nerf high sec thread of yours.Blink

FW mission payouts are not related to nerfing highsec.

You seem like a Dinsdale Disciple.


Indeed, but how many times you see a tittle in a tread and go read the OP and they are not related? Would be that some stealth attempt? Since quoting could reflect the editing, if it happens, I will do it on the old fashion way:

"Plexing creates more PvP content than missions do, so why do missions pay better?
Also C3 wormholes create more PvP content than highsec level 4 missions do, so why do highsec level 4 missions pay better?"

(sarcasm on)

I was away for like 6 months, don't have any idea of that Dinsdale cult, will look some information about joining them, thanks.

(sarcasm off)

If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD)
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-06-25 18:27:51 UTC
Bloody Slave wrote:
Also station trading creates zero PvP content, why do it pay better?

Also scamming generates zero PvP content, why do it pay better?

The list goes on but I will refrain from posting it to not derail this nerf high sec thread of yours.Blink


PvP isn't limited to only shooting ships.

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Chris Winter
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#12 - 2014-06-25 18:33:39 UTC
Paul Tsukaya wrote:
Also C3 wormholes create more PvP content than highsec level 4 missions do, so why do highsec level 4 missions pay better?

If you're making more money running HS L4s than C3s, you're really bad at C3s.
Bloody Slave
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-06-25 19:23:32 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Bloody Slave wrote:
Also station trading creates zero PvP content, why do it pay better?

Also scamming generates zero PvP content, why do it pay better?

The list goes on but I will refrain from posting it to not derail this nerf high sec thread of yours.Blink


PvP isn't limited to only shooting ships.


My bad, I forgot to sign with the sarcasm on/off, it seems "sarcasmology" is a dead science nowadays.Blink

If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD)
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#14 - 2014-06-25 20:49:19 UTC
Bloody Slave wrote:
My bad, I forgot to sign with the sarcasm on/off, it seems "sarcasmology" is a dead science nowadays.[

No need to sign on with your sarcasm on/off, just don't respond at all.

The guy asked a simple question and so far no one has answered it and the thread is all off topic. I do remember reading something in a devblog or wiki or something that does outline the reason but I haven't been able to find it. Hopefully someone else can point him to it.
ashley Eoner
#15 - 2014-06-25 23:10:47 UTC
Chris Winter wrote:
Paul Tsukaya wrote:
Also C3 wormholes create more PvP content than highsec level 4 missions do, so why do highsec level 4 missions pay better?

If you're making more money running HS L4s than C3s, you're really bad at C3s.

That was my first thought too.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-06-25 23:15:19 UTC
Let me put it this way:

A freight captain sailing his ship off the Somalian coast makes more money as a steady income than the pirates that hold him to ransom may eventually earn in one lump sum. PVE income vs PVP income right there.

Dodixie > Hek
Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-06-26 01:12:25 UTC
Paul Tsukaya wrote:
Plexing creates more PvP content than missions do, so why do missions pay better?

Also C3 wormholes create more PvP content than highsec level 4 missions do, so why do highsec level 4 missions pay better?



you dont fit warp core stabs and use a t1 frig to do the missions.

risk vs. reward.

no risk for plex.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2014-06-26 03:28:08 UTC
Bloody Slave wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Bloody Slave wrote:
Also station trading creates zero PvP content, why do it pay better?

Also scamming generates zero PvP content, why do it pay better?

The list goes on but I will refrain from posting it to not derail this nerf high sec thread of yours.Blink


PvP isn't limited to only shooting ships.


My bad, I forgot to sign with the sarcasm on/off, it seems "sarcasmology" is a dead science nowadays.Blink


It seems people use it as a cop-out more than anything nowadays.
"I got caught saying something dumb? I'll just pretend I was joking."

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Bloody Slave
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2014-06-26 04:13:29 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Bloody Slave wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Bloody Slave wrote:
Also station trading creates zero PvP content, why do it pay better?

Also scamming generates zero PvP content, why do it pay better?

The list goes on but I will refrain from posting it to not derail this nerf high sec thread of yours.Blink


PvP isn't limited to only shooting ships.


My bad, I forgot to sign with the sarcasm on/off, it seems "sarcasmology" is a dead science nowadays.Blink


It seems people use it as a cop-out more than anything nowadays.
"I got caught saying something dumb? I'll just pretend I was joking."


Since you keep quoting and making your assumptions, no matter what I can write, I will re-post one comment I did in a previous post about PvP (Player-versus-Player), 4 days ago:

"It's weird reading some of the posts here with ppl saying that don't PvP...

I would like to ask them:

1) Do you sell or buy anything on the market?

2) Do you manufacture anything?

3) Do you run any exploration site as fast you can before someone else shows up?

4) Do you block/ignore scammers in Jita?

5) Do you stop doing your missions and log or move out when you see the local chat infested with, errr, "griefers"?

6) Do you write in the forum to argue about any aspect of the game you disagree?

I could think on several other questions but, for now, these are enough. If you answer yes to any of the questions above I can be sure you like PvP.

That or I'm pretty lost about what is Player-versus-Player, any thoughts?"

Don't be mad if I just ignore any of your comments next time, ok?Roll

If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD)
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2014-06-26 06:03:06 UTC
Paul Tsukaya wrote:
Plexing creates more PvP content than missions do, so why do missions pay better?

Also C3 wormholes create more PvP content than highsec level 4 missions do, so why do highsec level 4 missions pay better?
To compensate for the boredom.

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