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Level 4.5 security missions that will improve PVE experience!

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Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#21 - 2014-06-25 16:09:14 UTC
Lady Rift wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
You won t be able to have link assists or anything else except your ship in the current area.And for this to happen you will be transfered to a location in different unlocatable system or simply the techonlogy of pirates prevets anything from entering their area but you managed to enter somehow.ONLY YOU!



still 1800em dps tank on the shield one. 2700dps omni. before crystals and blue pill.


Ok what if you meet someone with same or better stats?Read my last lines and my post carefully my friend.I suggested to be more competitive maybe the boss would be a random real player who subscribed for the level 4.5 but want to sabaotage you and be awarded from the pirates .[/quote]



It would perma tank almost any single ship in the game. It would be a race to see who can neut who first if the other guy has neuts. The marauder is cap stable with a better tank than any sub cap can dish out. if the other guy has no neut and is in a simular set up its a stalemate until downtime.



edit: trying to fix the quotes, failed it stays as is[/quote]

I don t think it perma tank a ship with 10k alpha strike or more but maybe the fit would make the difference as you said like neuts etc .And your purpose is to win not to permatank for 8 hours.Maybe a timer limit or something for the mission.

Feel the wrath of the GECKO!
Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#22 - 2014-06-25 16:11:30 UTC
Bohneik Itohn wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Bohneik Itohn wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Bohneik Itohn wrote:
It's not that we don't want more PvE content, it's that we want good PvE content but since Eve development is focused on PvP we'll only get more of the same trash we already have, and we'd rather time wasn't wasted on sub-par PvE content when those resources could be used improving other parts of the game that really are good.


Agree my friend but read my post .At last lines i say the boss to be a real random player which he will already have subsribed for the level 4.5 .So in that way you might face anything and will be not a.i but real players.


That's not PvE, that's PvP and you can already get that running L4's in low sec. Big smile


Not in the way i suggest it .A combaination of both and I suggested it as an alternative not it should work like that but i like it.


No but really... It is the way you suggest it.... Go run a few L4's in low sec and see what happens.


Yes either I will be ganked or warp away.It doesn t worth it and the thing i m suggesting is totally different.A whole new PVE content and great adition I think.

Feel the wrath of the GECKO!
Lady Rift
His Majesty's Privateers
#23 - 2014-06-25 16:25:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Rift
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Lady Rift wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
You won t be able to have link assists or anything else except your ship in the current area.And for this to happen you will be transfered to a location in different unlocatable system or simply the techonlogy of pirates prevets anything from entering their area but you managed to enter somehow.ONLY YOU!



still 1800em dps tank on the shield one. 2700dps omni. before crystals and blue pill.


Ok what if you meet someone with same or better stats?Read my last lines and my post carefully my friend.I suggested to be more competitive maybe the boss would be a random real player who subscribed for the level 4.5 but want to sabaotage you and be awarded from the pirates .




It would perma tank almost any single ship in the game. It would be a race to see who can neut who first if the other guy has neuts. The marauder is cap stable with a better tank than any sub cap can dish out. if the other guy has no neut and is in a simular set up its a stalemate until downtime.



edit: trying to fix the quotes, failed it stays as is[/quote]

I don t think it perma tank a ship with 10k alpha strike or more but maybe the fit would make the difference as you said like neuts etc .And your purpose is to win not to permatank for 8 hours.Maybe a timer limit or something for the mission.
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1800(2800 with implants) shield every 4 seconds. you really should look into the bastion mod. 1400mm arty (pretty sure only thing that does over 10k alpha) has a duration of 16 sec.

Also alpha is useless unless the other ship dies in one hit or bleeds armor or hull on most shots. 10k alpha is what after 70% resists on a ship with 9.5k raw shield.

only very very few ships in the game break 2k damage per second and I've never seen one of these ships set up with active tank (not saying not possible just haven't seen it yet). Most high end battle ships go form 1000 dps to 1500. marauders allow for tanks much greater than that while still doing really good dps at range.




Edit: all this just to say that there is a line of ships out there specifically make to have amazing active tanks and very good dps at the cost of movement. And that one v one most other ships types cant compete against it.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#24 - 2014-06-25 17:04:35 UTC
Egravant Alduin wrote:
You won t be able to have link assists or anything else except your ship in the current area.And for this to happen you will be transfered to a location in different unlocatable system or simply the techonlogy of pirates prevets anything from entering their area but you managed to enter somehow.ONLY YOU!

Then you are talking about "instancing" where no one can affect you. And I reject your idea on this basis alone.

No instancing in EVE.

How did you Veterans start?
Lady Rift
His Majesty's Privateers
#25 - 2014-06-25 17:07:06 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
You won t be able to have link assists or anything else except your ship in the current area.And for this to happen you will be transfered to a location in different unlocatable system or simply the techonlogy of pirates prevets anything from entering their area but you managed to enter somehow.ONLY YOU!

Then you are talking about "instancing" where no one can affect you. And I reject your idea on this basis alone.

No instancing in EVE.



he is probably going to try to say that it sucks you into a wormhole in to unknown space but this wormhole is a new class and these missions are the only way in or out,
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2014-06-25 17:10:31 UTC
Lady Rift wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
You won t be able to have link assists or anything else except your ship in the current area.And for this to happen you will be transfered to a location in different unlocatable system or simply the techonlogy of pirates prevets anything from entering their area but you managed to enter somehow.ONLY YOU!

Then you are talking about "instancing" where no one can affect you. And I reject your idea on this basis alone.

No instancing in EVE.



he is probably going to try to say that it sucks you into a wormhole in to unknown space but this wormhole is a new class and these missions are the only way in or out,

So he's talking about instancing in EVE.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#27 - 2014-06-25 17:10:36 UTC
Lady Rift wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
You won t be able to have link assists or anything else except your ship in the current area.And for this to happen you will be transfered to a location in different unlocatable system or simply the techonlogy of pirates prevets anything from entering their area but you managed to enter somehow.ONLY YOU!

Then you are talking about "instancing" where no one can affect you. And I reject your idea on this basis alone.

No instancing in EVE.



he is probably going to try to say that it sucks you into a wormhole in to unknown space but this wormhole is a new class and these missions are the only way in or out,

Which is pretty much the definition of instancing. Straight

How did you Veterans start?
Amarisen Gream
The.Kin.of.Jupiter
#28 - 2014-06-25 17:28:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Amarisen Gream
*** The MISSION system needs a major over haul.
The need to improve the missions they have. Add smarter AI that uses the ships along the roles they where made to be used. Drone boats would use drones. etc.

if the mission system was done properly - you'd be soling 1-3s most of the time due to the smarter AIs. 4s+ would be group/corp missions. where you would need to have more than just a BS to plow your way through to the end boss. You'd need a fleet to help. Ships to web. Ships to jam. Ships to play bait. Ships to heal. etc.

If you want a challenge while we wait for proper PVE mission content, open up the 5/10 + DED sites. and enjoy!

"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger All of his fury and rage. He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels" - The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1

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Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#29 - 2014-06-25 17:29:16 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Lady Rift wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
You won t be able to have link assists or anything else except your ship in the current area.And for this to happen you will be transfered to a location in different unlocatable system or simply the techonlogy of pirates prevets anything from entering their area but you managed to enter somehow.ONLY YOU!

Then you are talking about "instancing" where no one can affect you. And I reject your idea on this basis alone.

No instancing in EVE.



he is probably going to try to say that it sucks you into a wormhole in to unknown space but this wormhole is a new class and these missions are the only way in or out,

Which is pretty much the definition of instancing. Straight


I don t know what instancing is or means but my general sggestion says to have better PVE more challenges more risk and with more risk might come more reward or lose your ship.I really don t understand what bad will do in EVE if we have more PVE content?I mean expansions only bring balance to ships and more balance to ships and no new content.I m not saying that this isn t good i m sayng that this isn t enough for this top game.

Feel the wrath of the GECKO!
Alternative Splicing
Captain Content and The Contenteers
#30 - 2014-06-25 18:22:27 UTC
Egravant Alduin wrote:
I don t know what instancing is or means but my general sggestion says to have better PVE more challenges more risk and with more risk might come more reward or lose your ship.I really don t understand what bad will do in EVE if we have more PVE content?I mean expansions only bring balance to ships and more balance to ships and no new content.I m not saying that this isn t good i m sayng that this isn t enough for this top game.


So, there actually is a lot of PvE content in the game. Most of us think it needs to be more engaging, as it sustains many of our wallets and has become a chore. If you are tired of L4s and want a challenge...

1)DED sites and escalations - some are fairly difficult, escalations even sometimes have this boss you seek.
2)Wormholes
3)Incursions
4)Epic Arcs
5)Level V missions

So there really is plenty. I've probably missed a few as well. You may want to consider trying all of these first, before wanting more.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#31 - 2014-06-25 22:38:11 UTC
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