EVE General Discussion

I would like to know how CCP works against inflation. (If they do it.)

First I read this old and this newer forum thread.

But I think both have a wrong understanding of how virtual world economy works. Especially that you can not park your ISK save. It does not matter if you park your ISK into plex or expensive ships - that is all speculating. Only CCP drives in- or deflation.

In- and deflation is only driven by how much money CCP puts into and takes out of the eve universe.

How CCP puts ISK into eve universe (generate ISK):

• npc pirate bounty
• mission reward

How CCP takes out ISK form eve universe (destroy ISK):

• skill books, BPOs
• repair service
• insurance service
• LP Stores
• reprocess/manufacturing/inventing service
• plex
• war decs
• taxes (PI, sell/buy orders)

Anything else?

How does CCP work against inflation/deflation?
Now it would be nice to know how much ISK CCP puts into the game and off the game. It is kinda hard to believe that the community generates more ISK with npc pirate bounty and mission rewards than it destroys with all the other points from the other list.

What do you think? Do we have any informations about that?

Because all the prices and rewards are static, CCP can't setup anything to work against inflation or deflation. Or am I wrong? Maybe they take the balance with a simple control of what missions are offered and what kind of pirates spawns in any belts or sites.

So if we have an inflation, because there is too much money in our eve universe, CCP just spawns more smaller pirate ships in all belts and if there's a deflation, they spawn more bigger ships with better ISK/time ratio.

What do you think?

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Offtopic:
But what happens if 90% of all manufacturer would stop doing their business?

WRONG: I guess then it would not matter how much money we got, because there are not enough items to buy. Everything would be expensive - but a solution wouldn't be to generate more ISK - because ISK is in this situation not the problem.

CORRECT: That would cause a massive inflation, because you will have to pay much more for something. But if they would produce 90% more than right now, all prices would fall down and our ISK would be worth more - deflation. That is why in our real world companies rather destroy their goods instead of sell them cheaper.

Summary
Be nice to your manufacturers! ;)

PS: If you are interested in this topic you can read more from this guy Edward Castronova. He wrote some nice papers about virtual world economy. Papers that many game companies should have read ... companies like Blizzard obviously didn't take care of it ;)

I do not believe Plex takes isk out of the game, it is a net 0 effect.

So... CCP are operating like the Federal Reserve or the Bank Of England; controlling inflation through Quantitive Easing or destruction of hard currency and interest rates?

Um.. isnt that it?

Ok

Why do you ask?

wait, what? CCP isn't the one taking the 600+m for your plex, it's another player. Bartender, I'll have what he's having... make it a double.
ISK is destroyed, per se, when accounts holding it go inactive or unsub completely. It bleeds here and there in conversation fees, broker fees, and taxes on transactions. That said, it's a trifle compared to the pouring faucet that are missions and the like.

Supply and demand on that one, old boy

PLEX isnt going up because of inflation;

PLEX rising is CAUSING inflation

And for CCP thats just fine

Of course, it sucks that T2 ships have doubled in price in just three years, but then as PLEX have too that menas the ship is the same value as it was, its just the Isk/$/£/Euro has dropped signifigantly.

Of course, thats not counting the value of the RW currencies, but I guess it depends on your measuring stick

Isk is far easier to make than it was 3, 4 or 5 years ago, so that probably has an effect too

Insurance ADDS ISK to the economy.

Unless you mentioned it somewhere and I missed it,
but in the initial post it's in the wrong category.

And aren't there still NPC buyorders around?
Especially for WH loot? Is that still a thing?


I get the impression that you're not really qualified to question CCPs doings.

Tippia to the rescue!

Well, of course, but this questions was about that nobody fills the void ;)

I thought you can buy plex time bonus for ISK. But I think that I missunderstood it. So you buy it from people which bought it for real money, okay - so they have no influence - alright.


I think you missed clone costs in your list.

It's a particularly silly hypothetical, but in that case we don't know because it will depend on what else happens in the economy.

Yes, that and a few other things… like how faucets and sinks work, how the money supply works, and what they're balanced against.

No, it's a station service.