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Gila PVE (and Worm PVP)
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Phoenix Cervantez
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-06-24 13:04:26 UTC
Looked through a few threads but haven't found anything just yet... i'm considering trying some PVE in a Gila seeing as the buffs look awesome, however choosing that over an Ishtar is difficult at the moment due to price and 'bang for buck'.

I've had a little idea for a fit for the Gila, wanted to see what you guys thought. CPU is a pain here so it's a little 'shiney' looking:

[Gila, Test]
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Co-Processor II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 150
'Copasetic' Particle Field Acceleration
Caldari Navy EM Ward Field
Caldari Navy Thermic Dissipation Field
Caldari Navy Adaptive Invulnerability Field

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Drone Link Augmentor II

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II

'Augmented' Hammerhead x2


Stats (Levell V's):

DPS: 723/ 742 OH
EHP: 32,062 / 36,986 OH
Tank: 687dps (1076 OH)
Sig: 159
Cap Stable @63% with MWD off. (1m48 with everything on)
Resists: 83.0/83.0/73.8/78.1 (EM/TH/KIN/EXP) Shield (88.4/88.4/76.9/80.8 OH)


I'm also potentially looking to do some PVP in a Worm. I am really struggling with the Worm fit thought, any ideas?
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#2 - 2014-06-24 13:17:28 UTC
the gila will struggle a little bit in amarr space but getting a passive/ab fit and sig tanking has worked amazing for me for pve. I'm actually running a dual prop so I can sig tank with ab and contest explo sites with mwd. ive beaten both an ishtar in one site and a gila/cerb in another site. its a beast if flown smart and fit smart.

best part is all the shinies I have on mine I found doing explo. doesnt make it free of course but it does give me all kinds of good tickles.

I bet it would do even better with a decent implant set like halos or snakes to make the most of that sig tank.

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
Phoenix Cervantez
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-06-24 13:22:46 UTC
Sorry, I should have added for the tank I just made it reasonably omni. You'd have to tailor the fit to the region you're in.

What's your dual prop fit dude?
Rayzilla Zaraki
Yin Jian Enterprises
#4 - 2014-06-24 13:25:26 UTC
I've been working with one sporting 4 HAMS plus T2 Drone mods. No bling, but I did have to resort to two overclocking rigs.

With Arabalest launchers and standard ammo, combined DPS is just over 600. Cuts through combat sites like butter.

Gate campers are just Carebears with anger issues.
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#5 - 2014-06-24 13:33:05 UTC
My advice: Just use an Ishtar. Sentry Ishtar is far superior for what you're trying to do. the Gila works fine if you just want to try something shiny, but scout drones are just not as effective as sentry drones for PvE. Though if I was using it for PvE, I'd go for a fit something like this:

[Gila, PvE]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II

10MN Afterburner II
Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Cap Recharger II

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile
[Empty High slot]

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


'Augmented' Hammerhead x2
'Augmented' Valkyrie x2
'Augmented' Infiltrator x2
'Augmented' Vespa x2

Choose drones/hardeners depending on what type of rats you're facing, does 881 dps and the tank is almost cap-stable (12mins) and should be enough for L4s and most DEDs.

As for a PvP Worm, this would be the cookie cutter fit but you can get creative with it like going dual web armor fit or swapping the AB for MWD for null-sec work.

[Worm, PvP]

Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

1MN Afterburner II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Small Core Defense Field Extender II
Small Core Defense Field Extender II


Hobgoblin II x2
'Augmented' Hobgoblin x2

375dps and 10k EHP. A little slow at only 1084m/s though. Nothing will really fight you unless it's a blob or if you catch them.
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#6 - 2014-06-25 07:31:39 UTC
my badly skilled gila beats an ishtar in combat sites so far every time. and having rat specific drones beats having just hobs. that has been my experience.

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#7 - 2014-06-25 07:42:52 UTC
Well if you're badly skilled for a Gila it's likely you're badly skilled for an Ishtar too since they use many of the same skills. You need good sentry skills to make the most of an Ishtar. If your combat sites are very close range then the Gila might do better, but most have spawns ranging out to 50+km and thats when sentry Ishtar will completely blow the Gila away cause you lose alot of dps from your drones having to travel to each individual target not to mention having to pull them in when they take aggro, the sentries have instant damage application and can also be pulled in instantly to get around drone aggro.
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#8 - 2014-06-25 09:31:09 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
Well if you're badly skilled for a Gila it's likely you're badly skilled for an Ishtar too since they use many of the same skills. You need good sentry skills to make the most of an Ishtar. If your combat sites are very close range then the Gila might do better, but most have spawns ranging out to 50+km and thats when sentry Ishtar will completely blow the Gila away cause you lose alot of dps from your drones having to travel to each individual target not to mention having to pull them in when they take aggro, the sentries have instant damage application and can also be pulled in instantly to get around drone aggro.


no you misunderstood me. I was contesting an angel 4/10 with a t2 sentry ishtar. the rat spawns 40km+ away. I was able to outdps the sentry ishtar on that rat and get to it first because mwd.

also the whole having to recall drones thing is a myth. it happens maybe once every 3 sites and only one drone once in the site. you would know that if you have actually flow the gila. a single small armor remote rep is enough to negate even that.

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#9 - 2014-06-25 09:32:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Anize Oramara
double post

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#10 - 2014-06-25 11:59:10 UTC
Anize Oramara wrote:
Dato Koppla wrote:
Well if you're badly skilled for a Gila it's likely you're badly skilled for an Ishtar too since they use many of the same skills. You need good sentry skills to make the most of an Ishtar. If your combat sites are very close range then the Gila might do better, but most have spawns ranging out to 50+km and thats when sentry Ishtar will completely blow the Gila away cause you lose alot of dps from your drones having to travel to each individual target not to mention having to pull them in when they take aggro, the sentries have instant damage application and can also be pulled in instantly to get around drone aggro.


no you misunderstood me. I was contesting an angel 4/10 with a t2 sentry ishtar. the rat spawns 40km+ away. I was able to outdps the sentry ishtar on that rat and get to it first because mwd.

also the whole having to recall drones thing is a myth. it happens maybe once every 3 sites and only one drone once in the site. you would know that if you have actually flow the gila. a single small armor remote rep is enough to negate even that.


Angel rats approach you and have close orbits, so once you MWD into the blob they all make your job easier by coming close. Thats the situation I meant when I said the rats spawn close, I should have mentioned that they also have to orbit close. If you do a Guristas 5/10 in a short-range boat or with combat drones, you'll find the rats will starburst out in every direction and try to keep you at ~60km range and combat drones are terribly inefficient in those circumstances.
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#11 - 2014-06-25 12:57:00 UTC
ah ok, we'll just change the parameters untill the ishtar wins ;)

to clarify

the gila makes a great hs exploration boat and can decently run lv 4 missions with over 800dps.

the same goes for the ishtar. I just find the gila immensely more fun and amusing to fly and am able to easily beat ishtars at hs exploration.

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3