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Nolak Ataru
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2014-06-24 01:56:18 UTC
ElCholo wrote:
Warp into incursions with a griffin and an ecm burst. See if jamming their reppers get them killed. Maybe quite a few people in griffins with scrams can do it. If not... scorpions and ecm bursts?


Forgive my ignorance, but iirc, ECM Burst only caused you to lose lock of your current set, and you could lock right away again, whereas directed ECM would jam you for the whole cycle, or as long as you lived...
Dally Lama
Doomheim
#22 - 2014-06-24 10:55:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Dally Lama
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Voyager Arran wrote:
Oh boy, another "my 50 mil wardec fee is an inviolable decree for other pilots to offer themselves as content to me" thread.


More along the lines of "it shouldn't be avoidable for no consequences beyond a few mil in corp naming fees."

That, and "why are some people allowed to be immune to PvP".

I'd argue doing WH sites makes you far more immune to PvP than using a blinged out battleship for incusions in high-sec.
Not that I'm referencing anyone specifically here. Lol

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Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2014-06-24 11:28:39 UTC
best way is to get kill rights on them when they do their Bi-annual low sec roam, Then once they've killed you, Get in your vindicator and go hunting, Worked will for me before

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Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#24 - 2014-06-24 14:51:02 UTC
Nolak Ataru wrote:
ElCholo wrote:
Warp into incursions with a griffin and an ecm burst. See if jamming their reppers get them killed. Maybe quite a few people in griffins with scrams can do it. If not... scorpions and ecm bursts?


Forgive my ignorance, but iirc, ECM Burst only caused you to lose lock of your current set, and you could lock right away again, whereas directed ECM would jam you for the whole cycle, or as long as you lived...


True, but even a momentary loss can cause an expensive BS to go poof. You can only fit one ECM burst, and the Scorpion get a bonus to its range. So fire the burst, lock up logi and jam. You will lose your BS, but hopefully you will cause a few of them to go poof.

I think it goes without saying you should prep the gank. Choose a .5 system if possible, use an alt to spawn Concord elsewhere. etc.

If you really want to **** off the Incursion runners, find their links and gank it.
Nolak Ataru
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2014-06-24 15:55:23 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:
ElCholo wrote:
Warp into incursions with a griffin and an ecm burst. See if jamming their reppers get them killed. Maybe quite a few people in griffins with scrams can do it. If not... scorpions and ecm bursts?


Forgive my ignorance, but iirc, ECM Burst only caused you to lose lock of your current set, and you could lock right away again, whereas directed ECM would jam you for the whole cycle, or as long as you lived...


True, but even a momentary loss can cause an expensive BS to go poof. You can only fit one ECM burst, and the Scorpion get a bonus to its range. So fire the burst, lock up logi and jam. You will lose your BS, but hopefully you will cause a few of them to go poof.

I think it goes without saying you should prep the gank. Choose a .5 system if possible, use an alt to spawn Concord elsewhere. etc.

If you really want to **** off the Incursion runners, find their links and gank it.


Assuming the logi are within range ofc. And OGBs are covered by SRP by most if not all communities, and tend to fit cheap fits.
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2014-06-24 16:13:14 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
If cost isn't an issue just get a Scorpion, fit ECM jammers, ECM burst and an armor tank. Warp into their site and let loose with the ECM, primary their logi. Enjoy the tears.

On a side note, I think Concord reaction times in Incursion systems should be at least one minute response. Afterall, shouldn't Concord be busy killing Sansha somewhere?


Sansha NPC loves new targets warping in.
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-06-24 16:15:52 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:
ElCholo wrote:
Warp into incursions with a griffin and an ecm burst. See if jamming their reppers get them killed. Maybe quite a few people in griffins with scrams can do it. If not... scorpions and ecm bursts?


Forgive my ignorance, but iirc, ECM Burst only caused you to lose lock of your current set, and you could lock right away again, whereas directed ECM would jam you for the whole cycle, or as long as you lived...


True, but even a momentary loss can cause an expensive BS to go poof. You can only fit one ECM burst, and the Scorpion get a bonus to its range. So fire the burst, lock up logi and jam. You will lose your BS, but hopefully you will cause a few of them to go poof.

I think it goes without saying you should prep the gank. Choose a .5 system if possible, use an alt to spawn Concord elsewhere. etc.

If you really want to **** off the Incursion runners, find their links and gank it.


I believe that would be an exploit intentionally spawning Concord.
Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#28 - 2014-06-24 18:06:23 UTC
Caviar Liberta wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:
ElCholo wrote:
Warp into incursions with a griffin and an ecm burst. See if jamming their reppers get them killed. Maybe quite a few people in griffins with scrams can do it. If not... scorpions and ecm bursts?


Forgive my ignorance, but iirc, ECM Burst only caused you to lose lock of your current set, and you could lock right away again, whereas directed ECM would jam you for the whole cycle, or as long as you lived...


True, but even a momentary loss can cause an expensive BS to go poof. You can only fit one ECM burst, and the Scorpion get a bonus to its range. So fire the burst, lock up logi and jam. You will lose your BS, but hopefully you will cause a few of them to go poof.

I think it goes without saying you should prep the gank. Choose a .5 system if possible, use an alt to spawn Concord elsewhere. etc.

If you really want to **** off the Incursion runners, find their links and gank it.


I believe that would be an exploit intentionally spawning Concord.


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Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#29 - 2014-06-24 19:59:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Estella Osoka
Caviar Liberta wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:
ElCholo wrote:
Warp into incursions with a griffin and an ecm burst. See if jamming their reppers get them killed. Maybe quite a few people in griffins with scrams can do it. If not... scorpions and ecm bursts?


Forgive my ignorance, but iirc, ECM Burst only caused you to lose lock of your current set, and you could lock right away again, whereas directed ECM would jam you for the whole cycle, or as long as you lived...


True, but even a momentary loss can cause an expensive BS to go poof. You can only fit one ECM burst, and the Scorpion get a bonus to its range. So fire the burst, lock up logi and jam. You will lose your BS, but hopefully you will cause a few of them to go poof.

I think it goes without saying you should prep the gank. Choose a .5 system if possible, use an alt to spawn Concord elsewhere. etc.

If you really want to **** off the Incursion runners, find their links and gank it.


I believe that would be an exploit intentionally spawning Concord.


If it was, then CODE wouldn't be able to do what they do.

Caviar, you got to understand these Incursioners can make about as much as we do in FW, but at a substantial lower risk.
Nolak Ataru
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2014-06-24 21:02:21 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:

Caviar, you got to understand these Incursioners can make about as much as we do in FW, but at a substantial lower risk.


I'd like to call bull on this. In FW, all you gotta do is use a stealth bomber and you can blitz em pretty fast, plus it's easy to warp to a safe when a neut / hostile enters system, NOT TO MENTION that incursioners have to keep an eye out for nados and talos fleets.
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#31 - 2014-06-25 05:30:23 UTC
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