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EVE Online: Crucible 1.0.1 Feedback

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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2011-12-06 12:34:41 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Guard
EVE Online: Crucible 1.0.1 has been deployed. This update fixes various issues stemming from the Crucible release. Full patch notes are available here.

This thread is for general feedback. If you encounter any issues please use the Crucible 1.0.1 issues thread here.

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#2 - 2011-12-06 12:42:59 UTC
May the windows stick! Lol

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Mr Bigwinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-12-06 12:53:16 UTC
Apologies, I don't actually have anything very interesting to say :(

Thanks for taking the time to read this post though.

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TheButcherPete
NaCl For Sale
Brotherhood of Spacers
#4 - 2011-12-06 12:56:31 UTC
Meow.

Also, is it true? Windows are sticky now?!

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Kikusama
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2011-12-06 12:57:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Kikusama
Nope, windows still not sticky when pinned. Damn.

Later edit: actually, the Pin button tooltip has been changed to "Change window style".

Is this serious, CCP? You really removed the ability to pin and stick windows down to give us transparent/opaque "styles"? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

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Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2011-12-06 13:09:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarnis McPieksu
Right click menu change regarding bookmarks (sorry, "saved locations") is TERRIBLE - now your bookmarks are all behind one level of additional sub-menu ("Personal Locations" and "Corporate Locations"). When trying to dig up that POS bookmark for a fast getaway, this is going to get people killed...

I could see the current layout as an option, but the way it worked before today was the correct way - freely mixing your personal and corporate locations that are in the current system, all showing directly under the right click menu.

Sure, you could make them visibly different a single-character icon/letter before them or something, but this submenu system is just... FIX BACK NOW! :bittervet getting bitter:

Edit: to clarify, before today it was like this:


Bookmark 1
Bookmark 2
Bookmark 3



Today it is


Personal Locations > Bookmark1
Corporate Locations > Bookmark 2
...................................Bookmark 3

(with the sub-menus behind > opening when you mouse over)

Acceptable way of tagging them could be:

P: Bookmark 1
C: Bookmark 2
C: Bookmark 3

Still could tell personal and corporate ones apart, but no silly submenus. Letter could be replaced with some kind of icon if needed.
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
SLYCE Pirates
#7 - 2011-12-06 13:10:02 UTC
Kikusama wrote:
Nope, windows still not sticky when pinned. Damn.

Later edit: actually, the Pin button tooltip has been changed to "Change window style".

Is this serious, CCP? You really removed the ability to pin and stick windows down to give us transparent/opaque "styles"? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

That verbage was changed in the main patch last week.

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Sara Nomiya
The Failed and Forgotten
Exxitium
#8 - 2011-12-06 13:13:33 UTC
Jarnis McPieksu wrote:
Right click menu change regarding bookmarks (sorry, "saved locations") is TERRIBLE - now your bookmarks are all behind one level of additional sub-menu ("Personal Locations" and "Corporate Locations"). When trying to dig up that POS bookmark for a fast getaway, this is going to get people killed...

I could see the current layout as an option, but the way it worked before today was the correct way - freely mixing your personal and corporate locations that are in the current system, all showing directly under the right click menu.

Sure, you could make them visibly different a single-character icon/letter before them or something, but this submenu system is just... FIX BACK NOW! :bittervet getting bitter:


Yes THIS is annoying ... sure it seems to leave them in the initial menu if there's 4 or less tho having to deal with dodgy sub menus when time is critical is not the makings of a state of the art UI ! Evil

At least give us some control over how many items in each category will be accepted before they are all shoved into yet another sub menu which has yet another submenu please.
Kikusama
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2011-12-06 13:19:03 UTC
Salpun wrote:
Kikusama wrote:
Nope, windows still not sticky when pinned. Damn.

Later edit: actually, the Pin button tooltip has been changed to "Change window style".

Is this serious, CCP? You really removed the ability to pin and stick windows down to give us transparent/opaque "styles"? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

That verbage was changed in the main patch last week.


/facepalm

Can we please get back a way of PINNING windows down? Pretty please with sugar and exotic dancers on top?

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Skeito
Quay Industries
#10 - 2011-12-06 13:21:32 UTC
Changing the saved locations into a seperate drop down menu is a big step backwards.....needs changing back ASAP imo.
Stari Srba
The Eldars
#11 - 2011-12-06 13:33:13 UTC
I submitted 3 bug reports in the last 5 days and it seems like no one has even bothered looking (still showing as "not filtered").

So, here are my bug report IDs, in case someone does give a damn: 120858, 120862, 121258.
Aiko Shinjiro
Nekkakami Corp
#12 - 2011-12-06 13:33:44 UTC
YES ! Who thef. if not some non-playing , feature loving UI-Programmer came to that idea of putting Bookmarls into a mouseover pulldown menue ???

this is NOT one of the little steps that help

it totaly negates the effect of having bookmarks available quick to warp somewhere

its eve, not windows, not photoshop and not office. I dont need 20 diffrent pulldownmenues to choose

I need bookmarks and they are there to be accessable quick


Evil out
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#13 - 2011-12-06 13:56:53 UTC
Bookmark folders need to go back to being a primary member of the right-click menu, not buried in a "personal locations" sub-menu.

That was an extremely poor design decision to change that in 1.0.1.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#14 - 2011-12-06 14:08:11 UTC
Secondly - the locations folders in the right-click menu are *still* not sorted.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#15 - 2011-12-06 14:32:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Scrapyard Bob
Even stranger...

1) Bookmark folders are still not sorted.

2) If you place bookmarks into a folder so that you are more organized, they now get shoved under a "Personal Locations" folder in the r-click menu, which is a very bad design decision. But on some characters, this didn't happen and the personal folders are still in the top level menu.

If #2 was done based on "the number of personal location folders that you have" then it needs to be changed to have a much higher limitation. Just because I have 15-20 bookmark folders, does not mean that 15-20 will show up in every single system - there are times when I *need* 10 bookmark folders to show up in the r-click menu.

- Maybe change that "smart" feature to be a configuration option in the escape menu.

3) If you have a bookmark that is *not* organized into one of your personal location folders, it still appears in the top-level of the right-click menu.
TheButcherPete
NaCl For Sale
Brotherhood of Spacers
#16 - 2011-12-06 14:40:14 UTC
Well then, I can has pinning windows back? Dualscreen tripleboxing requires me to click quickly, and somtimes not as accurately as I need. I then drag my local chat all the way across the screen. Oopsie. Nooo, I do not play drunk, I just play silly.

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Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2011-12-06 14:42:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Hakaru Ishiwara
Not keen on the additional step required to access bookmarks while FiS.

Also:
Quote:
On changing currency, you now need to reload the wallet journal.
Is there any other currency outside of ISK? Pirate

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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#18 - 2011-12-06 14:43:38 UTC
Okay, here's how the new system seems to be working:

1) If you have less then 5 (1-4) bookmarks or bookmark folders that apply in the current system, they'll stay in the top-level right-click menu.

- This is way too few, the default limit should have been 10 or 12.

2) If you have 5 or more bookmark folders that apply within the current system, all your bookmarks get moved into a "Personal Locations" sub-folder.

- This needs to be made an option, so that we can decide on when we want things to get shoved into a sub-folder (such as at 12 items, or 20 items).
Adan Natrier
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2011-12-06 15:06:17 UTC
Skeito wrote:
Changing the saved locations into a seperate drop down menu is a big step backwards.....needs changing back ASAP imo.


I came right out here with the intent of complaining about this while taking a stargate trip or 20, and agree this is not a useful change. It appears that when there are 5+ sub-folders in system it will split this into a personal sub-menu. Corp locations* are now separated from personal locations*, and this a positive change, though indeed mine don't sort either, but I'd like my folders back please. If I want a long list of subfolders (tip: I do) please let it be my choice.

* bookmarks

Incidentally, we need to know a date for the fuel block switch now, not generalities. This is very important.

Imagine being told your electricity is changing voltage / to DC / whatever. Necessitating a change in every adapter and PSU you own, but having to prepay for 30 days no matter what. Spreadsheets, when told 'about two weeks, maybe' don't give data useful enough to conduct proper operations.

Don't make me tell my JF pilots they have to be available to do another 20 runs over Xmas. Please either give us a date, or say it won't be before X date. Continued ambiguity is going to give POS operators about four times as much work (and expense) to deal with during the changeover.

shasby
Doomheim
#20 - 2011-12-06 15:08:35 UTC
Jarnis McPieksu wrote:
Right click menu change regarding bookmarks (sorry, "saved locations") is TERRIBLE - now your bookmarks are all behind one level of additional sub-menu ("Personal Locations" and "Corporate Locations"). When trying to dig up that POS bookmark for a fast getaway, this is going to get people killed...

I could see the current layout as an option, but the way it worked before today was the correct way - freely mixing your personal and corporate locations that are in the current system, all showing directly under the right click menu.

Sure, you could make them visibly different a single-character icon/letter before them or something, but this submenu system is just... FIX BACK NOW! :bittervet getting bitter:

Edit: to clarify, before today it was like this:


Bookmark 1
Bookmark 2
Bookmark 3



Today it is


Personal Locations > Bookmark1
Corporate Locations > Bookmark 2
...................................Bookmark 3

(with the sub-menus behind > opening when you mouse over)

Acceptable way of tagging them could be:

P: Bookmark 1
C: Bookmark 2
C: Bookmark 3

Still could tell personal and corporate ones apart, but no silly submenus. Letter could be replaced with some kind of icon if needed.


Agreed totally. Pease fix ASAP.
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