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[PYRE] Change in Leadership

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-06-24 03:48:55 UTC
Dex Nederland wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
A translation of that would be that if you don't want to take Provist money and you don't want to fight against State forces, who else are you supposed to fly on behalf of? Seriously though, we're talking not just political but economic necessities. Being nice to everyone doesn't pay the bills.

Last I checked, the Provist were hunted down and the renegade 'Octopus' Squadron eliminated by late April and Tibus Heth removed from power over a year ago.

Based on Pyre's activity records, it looks like Pyre began supporting the Empire's war in early April.

Granted I may be out of touch having lived in Providence for more than 2 years, but there is the opposite way to read the data concerning Pyre's change of operational area. Likely just a coincidence however.

CPD wasn't "hunted" or anything like that. Just disassembled. So yea, Provists weren't in charge of the state over a year ago.

Besides, even if they were (and when they were) in charge, if someone doesn't like them, it isn't an excuse for a treason.
In fact, treason only because of dislike to Provists burdens the crime of treason, since Provists were patriots, best citizens of the State and representatives of Caldari elite.

They kicked out a lot of incompetent scum, who were taking their positions not because of their merits, but connections and nepotism. Of course these incompetents were unhappy with Provists, and disliking Provists automatically makes one undesired element for highly efficient Caldari corporate structure.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#22 - 2014-06-24 08:58:31 UTC
Makes me wonder what merits give you your position...

-Eran
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#23 - 2014-06-24 10:53:46 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:
Makes me wonder what merits give you your position...

-Eran


As it turns out, a goodly amount of batfsck crazy will apparently fill in all kinds of blanks, as with her bishie Heth.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#24 - 2014-06-24 14:33:28 UTC
Dex Nederland wrote:

Last I checked, the Provist were hunted down and the renegade 'Octopus' Squadron eliminated by late April and Tibus Heth removed from power over a year ago.

Based on Pyre's activity records, it looks like Pyre began supporting the Empire's war in early April.

Granted I may be out of touch having lived in Providence for more than 2 years, but there is the opposite way to read the data concerning Pyre's change of operational area. Likely just a coincidence however.


The Empire pays handsomely, and during the last deployment in the area some connections have been formed which lead to the possibility to join Imperial Outlaws. The STPRO, in comparison, is filled with the likes of Diana Kim and has not shedded it's Provist past. Changing this through active participation is an illusion - I'm not at this since yesterday.
But I'm deeply hurt that you insinuate me being a more professional, skilled and more handsome copy of Diana Kim.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.

Lucas Raholan
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
#25 - 2014-06-24 15:55:01 UTC
All the tittle tat above aside I would like to extend mine and Societas as a whole congratulations to Pyres new CEO. We pray that this change in leadership will allow many more victories over that rabble that calls itself the Minmatar Militia and will continue to support Pyres ongoing involvement with the Amarr Militia and Imperial Outlaws

Shitposts so bad CONCORD gave me a 50 billion ISK bounty

Erica Dusette
Division 13
#26 - 2014-06-24 18:02:22 UTC
My family and I wish the lovely Mr Gesakaarin all the best in his new role.

May you and your organization prosper and grow as a result.

Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

Part-Time Wormhole Pirate Full-Time Supermodel

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Dex Nederland
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
The Fourth District
#27 - 2014-06-24 18:34:50 UTC
Desiderya wrote:
The Empire pays handsomely, and during the last deployment in the area some connections have been formed which lead to the possibility to join Imperial Outlaws. The STPRO, in comparison, is filled with the likes of Diana Kim and has not shedded it's Provist past. Changing this through active participation is an illusion - I'm not at this since yesterday.
But I'm deeply hurt that you insinuate me being a more professional, skilled and more handsome copy of Diana Kim.

Oh, no you are not a copy of Diana Kim. Far from it. Diana Kim is a fanatic, you are not.

Pyre are far more survivalist and mercenary.

Also, referencing your previous deployment to support the Empire does not help to reduce the possible opposite conclusion regarding Pyre than what Tuulinen-haan presented. If anything, it only strengthens it since Pyre deployed to the Empire while Tibus Heth was still the CEO of KK.

Likely best to just say, "Yes, those are all coincidences."

Moitte.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#28 - 2014-06-24 18:47:41 UTC
Down with this sort of thing.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-06-24 19:13:49 UTC
Pyre are traitors, at least while they were led by that disgusting woman.
Lets see if they can change their ways under new management, or just let them rot as typical outcasts.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Vizage
Capital Allied Industrial Distribution
#30 - 2014-06-24 19:19:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Vizage
My congratulations to Mr. Gesakaarin. I wish him and Pyre all the best in their immediate and distant future.

- K
Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#31 - 2014-06-24 20:23:51 UTC
Dex Nederland wrote:

Oh, no you are not a copy of Diana Kim. Far from it. Diana Kim is a fanatic, you are not.

Pyre are far more survivalist and mercenary.

Also, referencing your previous deployment to support the Empire does not help to reduce the possible opposite conclusion regarding Pyre than what Tuulinen-haan presented. If anything, it only strengthens it since Pyre deployed to the Empire while Tibus Heth was still the CEO of KK.

Likely best to just say, "Yes, those are all coincidences."

Moitte.


I could say this, but those who don't want to believe it wouldn't believe it.
If you want, we can have a chat and or drink while musing about this particular topic, though. It's all about networking, after all.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#32 - 2014-06-24 22:26:29 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Pyre are traitors, at least while they were led by that disgusting woman.
Lets see if they can change their ways under new management, or just let them rot as typical outcasts.

1 million ISK says they don't conform to your "non traitor" standards, in favor of making a profit.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Utsukushi Shi
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2014-06-25 02:43:12 UTC
I don't think we could conform to Kim-haan's "non-traitor" standards even if we weren't making a profit.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#34 - 2014-06-25 03:40:14 UTC
Utsukushi Shi wrote:
I don't think we could conform to Kim-haan's "non-traitor" standards even if we weren't making a profit.

You could always start yelling "DESTROY THE FEDERATION!", "PROVISTS ARE COOL PEOPLE" and "I WANT TO BIRTH HEATH'S CHILDREN"..... You, too, can become a model Caldari citizen!Big smile

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Hevaima Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#35 - 2014-06-27 03:30:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Hevaima Gesakaarin
Dex Nederland wrote:

Last I checked, the Provist were hunted down and the renegade 'Octopus' Squadron eliminated by late April and Tibus Heth removed from power over a year ago.

Based on Pyre's activity records, it looks like Pyre began supporting the Empire's war in early April.

Granted I may be out of touch having lived in Providence for more than 2 years, but there is the opposite way to read the data concerning Pyre's change of operational area. Likely just a coincidence however.


I will clarify and say that the deployment of Pyre Falcon into the Bleak Lands last year was due to the membership of the Chairwoman and myself in the same Cadre Organization that Intara Direct Action would have likely used to assert as evidence of affiliation with Kaalakiota Corporation on the part of the company in their vicarious liability for defamation and libel case in the CBT if it wasn't thrown out by the CPD at the time. As events continued to transpire last year it became increasingly evident the severe disagreements in political philosophy between our Cadre Organization, the CPD and CEO Heth, that became irreconcilable differences necessitating a self-imposed exile as a form of protest and resistance to those who would seek to destroy the legacy of The Father, Sobaseki.

The present deployment is a far more pragmatic affair.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#36 - 2014-06-28 02:50:58 UTC
In other words, Nederland-haani, as I said "If you don't want to take Provist money..."

Whilst the CPD has been dismantled, you'll notice that nobody else has stepped up to assume oversight of the State Protectorate. I'm amazed, given the amount of ISK that flows through the organisation on a daily basis, that this hasn't been clarified but...

...perhaps the uncertainty serves someone's political agenda? I just don't know.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#37 - 2014-06-28 12:32:30 UTC
Sometimes things are just a means to an end. I'm surprised you haven't seen that yet.

-Eran
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