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Manticore solo gang fit
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Anormalny Sigmahor
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-06-21 08:27:18 UTC
Hello
Got 2 fit from player (friend) but i will ask here too. Any good fit for solo gank null and low??
And other question... stealth bomber vs rat farm/quest?? is he useful in null/low pve?
flakeys
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-06-21 08:49:48 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
Soloing with a manticore isn't the best thing there is mate.

Other then that , sure you can get some kills with it.Last time i used it for soloing was about a year and a half back in syndicate and allthough i killed off some battlecruisers/cruisers usually you are just relying on your opponent being utter fail rather then having a ship cut out for the job.

edit: Noticed you also asked for low-sec.If as you are suggesting you are looking for pvp i'm sure flying a stealthbomber solo in low-sec will give you more headache then anything else.Most of low-sec is filled with frigs and especially the FW warzone.Your bomber is gonna be the easiest kill for them.I killed off a 450m+ manticore in my 10 m breacher a month or 2 ago in low-sec and he hardly did any damage.Two days ago i ran into a manticore and he literally did no damage while i killed him off in a blink.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#3 - 2014-06-21 11:29:24 UTC
A general eve rule of thumb: Every time you say 'quest' you should cut your mouse cord and replace it. (for those with no cord on thier mouse a small to medium hammer will suffice.

Manticor solo gang fit??? so are you solo or gang?

There are a zillion manticore fits out there. Some are better than others. Some are better than others for certain things. The fit depends on what you are up to. If you're in high/low - I wouldn't fit a bomb launcher. If you're in null/wh I wouldn't leave home without a bomb launcher. See what I'm getting at.

General rule of thumb: bombers are cheap and super fun. Experiment and learn the modules and how to fit with experience. Asking for fits is fine, but learning fits is the way to actually win eve. Modify and ammend to fit your needs and purpose.

manti all arounder: good for wh space wanderings that could end up anywhere

bomb launcher
torp launchers
cover cloak

long point
mwd
painter

dc
bcu

rigs - rate of fire and damage (1 each)

Use t2 and meta4 mods as necessary to allow the fit. Use your cloak and sellective engagement as your tank.
Professor Headmash
Under the Influence Inc
#4 - 2014-06-21 19:15:39 UTC
The only thing bombers are useful for are:

1) sneaking up on people doing data or relic sites
2) bashing structures with 20 mates
3) doing bombing runs in null with 20 mates
4) running fac war missions

There paper thin and die very quick if anyone with half a brain or ability to fit a ship gets near you.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#5 - 2014-06-25 03:19:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Zappity
Oxymorons ftw!

Edit: Oh, you meant gank, not gang. You could kill explorers but not with a torp fit.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2014-06-30 03:58:51 UTC
I know I have responded to this almost-exact same question already a number of time in these forums. I doubt that the advice those previous requesters received has changed an awful lot.

Bombers *are* awesome btw.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#7 - 2014-07-07 13:13:32 UTC
Ive been flying bombers for over a year and a half now, i can tell you from experience solo bombers dont perform well unless your extrememly lucky or only go after defenselss ships. a solo manticore cant even solo a procurer now because of the drone changes. also they make for sub par ratting ships as they have no tank to outlast frigs or cruisers.

The key however is to think like a troll and punch above your weight class, dont touch frigs, some cruisers, dessies, dictors, hics, or Drone boats, but some fits can solo or kite gunboats with an experienced pilot. plus you see a fleet cloak and warp and wait them out

♣ Small Gang PVP, Large Fleet PVP, Black Ops, Incursions, Trade, and Industry ♣ 70% Lethal / 30% Super-Snuggly / 110% No idea what im doing ♣

This Message Brought to you by a sweet and sour bittervet
Steijn
Quay Industries
#8 - 2014-07-11 17:44:47 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
A general eve rule of thumb: Every time you say 'quest' you should cut your mouse cord and replace it. (for those with no cord on thier mouse a small to medium hammer will suffice.

Manticor solo gang fit??? so are you solo or gang?

There are a zillion manticore fits out there. Some are better than others. Some are better than others for certain things. The fit depends on what you are up to. If you're in high/low - I wouldn't fit a bomb launcher. If you're in null/wh I wouldn't leave home without a bomb launcher. See what I'm getting at.

General rule of thumb: bombers are cheap and super fun. Experiment and learn the modules and how to fit with experience. Asking for fits is fine, but learning fits is the way to actually win eve. Modify and ammend to fit your needs and purpose.

manti all arounder: good for wh space wanderings that could end up anywhere

bomb launcher
torp launchers
cover cloak

long point
mwd
painter

dc
bcu

rigs - rate of fire and damage (1 each)

Use t2 and meta4 mods as necessary to allow the fit. Use your cloak and sellective engagement as your tank.


i wouldnt go solo in a wh with that fit.
Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#9 - 2014-07-12 10:55:47 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
A general eve rule of thumb: Every time you say 'quest' you should cut your mouse cord and replace it. (for those with no cord on thier mouse a small to medium hammer will suffice.

Manticor solo gang fit??? so are you solo or gang?

There are a zillion manticore fits out there. Some are better than others. Some are better than others for certain things. The fit depends on what you are up to. If you're in high/low - I wouldn't fit a bomb launcher. If you're in null/wh I wouldn't leave home without a bomb launcher. See what I'm getting at.

General rule of thumb: bombers are cheap and super fun. Experiment and learn the modules and how to fit with experience. Asking for fits is fine, but learning fits is the way to actually win eve. Modify and ammend to fit your needs and purpose.

manti all arounder: good for wh space wanderings that could end up anywhere

bomb launcher
torp launchers
cover cloak

long point
mwd
painter

dc
bcu

rigs - rate of fire and damage (1 each)

Use t2 and meta4 mods as necessary to allow the fit. Use your cloak and sellective engagement as your tank.



MWD bomber means your now flying a frig with little to no EHP with the sig radius of a cruiser. THis makes you easier to track, hit, and you get hit for more by certain weapons, plus it decimates your capacitor. If you want speed go with the 10mn AB fit bombers, i have those fits in game if you need them just mail me if you want one ( Oh and their stable )

Oh and DCU on a bomber? Nope if you hit hull your ****** as is, save the cap and put out more DPS or use it to free up fit for an MSE for "tank"

♣ Small Gang PVP, Large Fleet PVP, Black Ops, Incursions, Trade, and Industry ♣ 70% Lethal / 30% Super-Snuggly / 110% No idea what im doing ♣

This Message Brought to you by a sweet and sour bittervet
Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#10 - 2014-07-12 11:00:45 UTC
Professor Headmash wrote:
The only thing bombers are useful for are:

1) sneaking up on people doing data or relic sites
2) bashing structures with 20 mates
3) doing bombing runs in null with 20 mates
4) running fac war missions

There paper thin and die very quick if anyone with half a brain or ability to fit a ship gets near you.



You can get under somethings guns and do some solo work in a bomber, i tackled a noob legion in low sec in my manticore, got under his beam lasers and drove him into 30% armor before his friend showed up in a Vexor and i had to warp off before the Warriors got me.

Plus you can use it to kill any miner whos not in a procurer/Skiff, any industrial ships, and some battleships solo ( particularly easy if you bomb them to kill their only flight of drones, BS sized guns tracking is abyssmal so even webbed its easy to be under their guns)

♣ Small Gang PVP, Large Fleet PVP, Black Ops, Incursions, Trade, and Industry ♣ 70% Lethal / 30% Super-Snuggly / 110% No idea what im doing ♣

This Message Brought to you by a sweet and sour bittervet
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#11 - 2014-07-14 19:15:42 UTC
Steijn wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:
A general eve rule of thumb: Every time you say 'quest' you should cut your mouse cord and replace it. (for those with no cord on thier mouse a small to medium hammer will suffice.

Manticor solo gang fit??? so are you solo or gang?

There are a zillion manticore fits out there. Some are better than others. Some are better than others for certain things. The fit depends on what you are up to. If you're in high/low - I wouldn't fit a bomb launcher. If you're in null/wh I wouldn't leave home without a bomb launcher. See what I'm getting at.

General rule of thumb: bombers are cheap and super fun. Experiment and learn the modules and how to fit with experience. Asking for fits is fine, but learning fits is the way to actually win eve. Modify and ammend to fit your needs and purpose.

manti all arounder: good for wh space wanderings that could end up anywhere

bomb launcher
torp launchers
cover cloak

long point
mwd
painter

dc
bcu

rigs - rate of fire and damage (1 each)

Use t2 and meta4 mods as necessary to allow the fit. Use your cloak and sellective engagement as your tank.


i wouldnt go solo in a wh with that fit.



The character you're posting with doesn't really do anything. I'm not questioning your credibility - I'm flat out saying a character that has zero kills and 2 losses has no business commenting on solo pvp. Bring your main and some crediblity or stop wasting the readers time.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#12 - 2014-07-14 19:33:08 UTC
Are there any kb that can actually parse kill data? What I'd like to be able to do is give them my api and then look at how many and how many different ships I've taken down with a bomber. It would be nice to have the ability to link that sort of info with my recommended fit. It would be more helpful than someone pointing out obvious facts about mwd vs sig radius and recommending dumb things like a mse over a damage control.
Steijn
Quay Industries
#13 - 2014-07-14 20:51:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Steijn
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Steijn wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:
A general eve rule of thumb: Every time you say 'quest' you should cut your mouse cord and replace it. (for those with no cord on thier mouse a small to medium hammer will suffice.

Manticor solo gang fit??? so are you solo or gang?

There are a zillion manticore fits out there. Some are better than others. Some are better than others for certain things. The fit depends on what you are up to. If you're in high/low - I wouldn't fit a bomb launcher. If you're in null/wh I wouldn't leave home without a bomb launcher. See what I'm getting at.

General rule of thumb: bombers are cheap and super fun. Experiment and learn the modules and how to fit with experience. Asking for fits is fine, but learning fits is the way to actually win eve. Modify and ammend to fit your needs and purpose.

manti all arounder: good for wh space wanderings that could end up anywhere

bomb launcher
torp launchers
cover cloak

long point
mwd
painter

dc
bcu

rigs - rate of fire and damage (1 each)

Use t2 and meta4 mods as necessary to allow the fit. Use your cloak and sellective engagement as your tank.


i wouldnt go solo in a wh with that fit.



The character you're posting with doesn't really do anything. I'm not questioning your credibility - I'm flat out saying a character that has zero kills and 2 losses has no business commenting on solo pvp. Bring your main and some crediblity or stop wasting the readers time.


you dont need to be combat orientated to know you dont go solo into a wh with no probe launcher.

...and you really should check the kbs more closely, admittedly not many, but certainlly more than zero kills.

EDIT:- hmm only fleet kills showing up, i'll give you the zero kills for now if you meant solo.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-07-14 21:02:08 UTC
Steijn wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:
The character you're posting with doesn't really do anything. I'm not questioning your credibility - I'm flat out saying a character that has zero kills and 2 losses has no business commenting on solo pvp. Bring your main and some crediblity or stop wasting the readers time.


you dont need to be combat orientated to know you dont go solo into a wh with no probe launcher.

...and you really should check the kbs more closely, admittedly not many, but certainlly more than zero kills.

EDIT:- hmm only fleet kills showing up, i'll give you the zero kills for now if you meant solo.
Anyone want some?

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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#15 - 2014-07-15 14:30:16 UTC
Steijn wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Steijn wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:


good stuff

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dumb stuff




more good stuff

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you dont need to be combat orientated to know you dont go solo into a wh with no probe launcher.

...and you really should check the kbs more closely, admittedly not many, but certainlly more than zero kills.

EDIT:- hmm only fleet kills showing up, i'll give you the zero kills for now if you meant solo.



So... I live in a wh.... so.... I know you do have to be combat oriented.... so.... I fly w/ my corp - because people like me.... so.... 'fleet kills' .

It's almost like you chose not to read 'wh all arounder' and instead inserted 'Lost's solo bomber fit I have no experience with, but still feel a need to comment on'

Most wh ships don't have probe launchers on them. Most wh corps do keep a scanner in the wh that dictates a scanner being there. Your mastery of what you feel is obvious is pretty funny. It's almost like you are advocating a ship that can do everything, but nothing well.

Perhaps you should seek out the 'Fittings Generalizations by folks that haven't done it, but have thought about it in great detail' section of the forums. You'll do well there.

(passes out ginger ale to folks eating popcorn)