Wormholes

We are a three girl corp that are struggling to keep a large Amarr tower fueled.
It costs about 100 mil a week.
Up to now we have been hauling in the fuel blocks but the logistics and cost suck.
We talked about mining ice in empire and hauling in the ice refines and using a block BP in the POS and PI materials.
However we don’t want to spend all day mining ice for this.
We’re doing it wrong….right?

I ride this huge Freighter that my man owns, so I can keep him fueled all month long....

Run more sites, sell Pi, buy fuel blocks, use a DST for hauling (remember it has corp hangar now). In the end using the ISK from WH sites and spending the time on that is usually more efficent than trying to make POS fuel and mining ice, etc.

no tool need you need a gas a barren and a lava/plasma have those 3 and you have everything you need for fuel the rest is just icing and for the person that mentioned Jump Freighter he has never been in wh before you can not do that in a low lvl wh at all as they mentioned.

Three girl corp lol. :D

You are doing WH very wrong. Do PI and farm sleepers. Then POS fuel will become your smallest expense.

dont use large tower for 3 man corp that is bad idea , do you can defend it if agressor comes with large fleet? no.
large tower is expensive ti maintenain so you should definietly take medium . the small tower is not worth time so stick with medium tower and you will be ok, buy the ice do a pi in your wormhole and build fuel in yur pos

of course you can run sites, mine the gas and sell along the loot/salvage and buy fuel and haul in.

Well....lets see. I'll make this very noob friendly, if you can't print enough isk with 3 "girls" to fuel one tower, perhaps you should look into doing something else.

Step 1. Go to jita in hauler
Step 2 open market
Step 3 select racial fuel blocks
Step 4 buy as much as you can carry
Step 5 wait for kspace entrance
Step 6 go to kspace entrance and then to your wormhole
Step 7 put fuel in tower
Step 8 rinse and repeat to avoid tower from running out of fuel.

Sounds like you need some Joey in your POS.

Anyhow. You can't quite be above a c3 hole. That's just my guess, meaning you get consistent low and hisec exits. As such, I would run PI in home, and just bring in the ice, and make the fuel locally. If you are fast enough, you can fuel your POS in about a week's worth.

As far as I remember, building fuel blocks in your home wasn't necessarily cheaper, bt using the materials you already produce in there cuts down the volume of required imports by quite a margin.

If you intend to keep on doing this (wh-dwelling) with your small corp, a faction med tower could be awesome in the very long run. Afterall, you can scoop and anchor t somewhere else as you please.

As others mentioned, you should eventually not have to worry about income in W-space, if you spend any length of time here.

First, consider your W-space static. C1 and C2 statics are fairly poor income, though if you find a system rich with combat sites it can be beneficial (short term). We had a C1 open into us with maybe 40-ish combat sites, and since it was a slow night we ran them. We each soloed a bunch of sites, and overall I think we averaged 50-75m ISK/hr. We may have gotten lucky with ribbon drops, which is the limiting factor, but I don't know what C1 sites are supposed to average.

When you move up to a C3 or C4 static, your fortunes can quickly change. C3 is still easily soloable (as in, a single ship), though C4 sites start hitting a little harder and neuting a little more. Three characters is more than enough to run combat sites in a C4, and you can easily get 100+ million ISK/hr for well-skilled characters. My corp has a C4 W-space static, and I wholeheartedly recommend that, as not only does it provide very good PvE income, but it also provides access to a very wide variety of PvP content. We have a couple of guys who multibox the C4 sites during off times and make 300+ mil ISK/hr (averaging 100m per account though). A C2/HS/C3 is also very good, but also very much in demand, and people will be willing to evict you over that if you are a small corp.

C5 and C6 statics may have combat sites that are more than you can handle -- not sure, haven't run them non-escalated -- but they have the availability of Core gas sites with the coveted C320 gas whose protecting Sleepers can easily be killed by a small group like yours. I believe C2 holes with C5/C6 W-space statics also only have Nullsec K-space statics as well, which may not be what you're looking for. Harvesting C320 can be up to 100 mil ISK/hr depending on the market. Haven't checked lately, but it was close to 75 when I looked last.

Sleeper shooting is incredibly lucrative, but requires active input and assets on field are immediately vulnerable. Done right, it also requires a hefty skill-set. It is the same with gassing, though assets on field are substantially less valuable than sleeper shooting ships. If you do decide to harvest gas, go straight for T2 gas harvesters before you even start. T2 is so substantially ahead of T1 Level 4 that it's not funny.

You can always shoot rocks, though you're probably better off mining ice in Hisec for profits. We do like people who shoot rocks, though :)

PI was already mentioned, but another big one is industry. Research and Manufacturing can produce huge profits with minor effort; most of the activity is passive, and for effort and risk vs reward, it far surpasses even "solo" capital escalations. It takes a couple of months to get to a good point where you're likely to make the most money with the greatest stability. You may need to start small or make a sizeable initial investment, but once you're rolling, just keep up with it and money pours in.


The large tower may be expensive, and people may be suggesting that you tear it down and buy something smaller and more shiny, but in reality, a large, well-defended POS especially in a C1-C4 is about as discouraging as you can get as far as warding off attacks. It's not unheard of for bored people to stront-check even a medium POS. Shields on large towers alone is enough of a turn-off unless you really make someone mad.