Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I think the deconstruction idea with the missiles is a little far-fetched and awkward, but the general premise you made about the t2 logi frigs being these 'combat engineer' ships is absolutely brilliant. A ship bonus on timer reduction of deployables would be excellent in conjunction with special hold expansion.

Another critique I might have come to think of it would be just using a larger ship for this; you'd run into a lot of problems with having a cargo hold on a ship that's big enough to fit itself in it, so here's an idea I'll pitch you could use to integrate that particular feature:

-as part of the t3 rebalance, they would make a new class of t3 ships that would supplant things like logistics on the current t3 ships after the get their defensive subs somewhat nerfed (resists on everything but the adaptive sub get brought down to recon levels), and get their cloak sub rolled into an electronics sub, namely the locus analyzer dropping its tractor bonus in favor of the covops.

-the new t3 cruiser would perform a support and industrial role; it would appropriate some of the electronic warfare bonuses from the other ship, namely ecm from the tengu, but leave the others intact and support with the gallente having damps, amarr having tracking disruption, etc. While it would have more limited combat usability than its current t3 counterpart, it would have decent offensive abilities along the lines of combat recon boats. One of the main features for electronics would be this structure deployment bonus you're talking about, and it would have a special cargo bay of a base of around 5k m3, giving it slightly less space than the smaller courier industrials.

Now granted this bonus could EASILY be appropriated into another t2 ship, but the main factor you'd have to consider would be that if you wanted a ship that could anchor starbase structures quickly, it would have to be cruiser-sized or large due to logical cargo constraints. Would you be against them making new industrial ships for caldari and amarr, and make the ship in question you're talking about a t2 indy?

Maybe bring back the codes for Mines in the game, and have them only applicable against structures? That and giving them the ability to use hacking modules to recover structures, both for the frig and combat engineer would be excellent for POS reclaimation in w-space.

Currently on holiday in Paris so Internet and link time is not a strength here. I got it from an EVE novel or short story but I'm sure a quick search will turn something up. Warp core inertial drag is the CCP excuse for the lack of Newtonian Physics bit the game and is a well known explanation for our submarine in space effect.

I saw this the other day. Didn't have any post. Not going to read them all. But +1

The thing on this I think would be best, is that it be a pirate faction (ORE) that develops these ships.
CCP keeps feeding us combat ships, but we need utility ships. Ships for deployables. Smaller salvage ship. POS assistant ship.
We need options when it comes to our industrial side of the game.
I would still love to see a mid range hauler for intra-system hauling. Sub freighter hold, but can't use jump gates when it has cargo.
Plus the current industrial support ships need a major over haul.

Perhaps rather than demo charges they can have a 'mortar' weapon system much like the spigot mortars that actual combat engineer vehicles use for structure demolition. Short range heavy charge doing heavy damage but with slow explosion velocity so not much use against moving ships. More of a massive plasma charge than and explosive charge. The CEV would need a pretty good brick tank though for POS bashing...

I think this would be a great add-on to the game, it would make small time logistics far easier, also since CCP wants to add more mobile structures. I would love to be able zip around setting up systems for my own personal use, and maybe benefiting the corp in some way. ++++++1

Agreed that's what I meant, a very slow fusion torpedo, small slow blast radius but hideously destructive. Like a Thermite torpedo or something, splats against the hull and just burns...

i don't like the idea. it would be abused soo much .....

let's wait for sov revmap ...

This ship screams a redesign of the Eschelon just as the Noctis was a redesign of the Primae.

I had an Idea concerning the Demolition Charges. Make them more like real charges, not launched but 'put' onto the target. The Engineer ship must come withing 2500m of the target and anchor the charge to the structure, should take some time (10-30 sec), ship bonuses could bring it down. After that the charge has a timer (15-30 sec) where it show's a global countdown similar to anchoring timers. When the charge detonates, it only does structure damage to the Structure, and pushes out a smartbomb-like effect that deals enough damage to kill all but the most heavily tanked frigates at a range of 5000m. The charge would also clear out any other active/inactive charges on the Structure, hopefully minimizing abuse.

Mechanics similar to bombs should be employed so that 4-5 ships must work in concert to get maximum effectiveness. Also any AoE effects that would hit the structure would also destroy the charges making defensive smartbombing or bombing a viable tactic to counter. They should be limited to Low-sec and below because of the AoE effect.

When interacting with POS structures because it is 'anchored' to the tower the online tower can and will mount an active defense preventing democharges from being used. Deployables don't have that luxury and may be attacked at any stage of there lifetime save for the depot's reinforcement stage.

I believe that this will be a viable alternative to taking down dead towers in small groups as you'd have to be close to the structure to plant the charges, and the small mass footprint of frigates are ideal for moving around WH Space.

Ari

I really like the sticky-bomb type of thing that Ari mentioned, along with the POS protection system. I don't like the multi-kilometer damage radius though. With that, they WOULD feel too much like bombs 2.0. Everything else you mentioned sounds awesome though. Making them effective while preventing trololo-speed pos breaking would make this much more balanced.