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If I buy a character in the bazaar, will I have corp trouble?

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#21 - 2014-06-22 11:01:46 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
And attitude will get you in more than any amount of skillpoints.

quoting for emphasis.

Cool
Lantro
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2014-06-22 12:17:06 UTC
Attitude doesn't grant more CPU or better cap recharge.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#23 - 2014-06-22 14:38:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Lantro wrote:
Attitude doesn't grant more CPU or better cap recharge.

true, however sp will not get you invited into corps. doesn't make you friends or gain you contacts.

you will never get a nod of respect from someone who kicked your arse because of the sp your toon has but if you show a resilient attitude or at the least remember to laugh it off and say " you got me" people will bend over backwards to help you understand how to get better.

Edit: the same goes for the forums as well, example
Amaranthe Emberd
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2014-06-22 15:07:10 UTC
The OP seems to me like a reasonable person that's aware they will lose ships in the beginning and already has a proper attitude. I can't see why he has to spend 6+ months to get support skills. He can join many of the new player friendly groups and corps with a character that has the actual skills to fit properly a t1 frigate.

In the end it's up to you OP, you'll have to learn the exact same things in both cases. And if you were able to make 5b I don't think losing a few hundred t1 frigates with t2 fits will be that much worse than losing the same number of frigates with meta 4 modules.
Tepek Esubria
#25 - 2014-06-22 16:17:45 UTC
Thanks for voicing the other opinion. I think that makes much more sense. Shocked
Qalix
Long Jump.
#26 - 2014-06-23 15:54:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Qalix
Ignore the naysayers.

Yes, its true that you want to get good at flying basic ships before you start throwing money around. But as you will quickly learn after you join a pvp corp (say, Brave Newbies), being weeks and even months behind the doctrine fits means you can't even participate in the kind of fleets that would allow you to learn to fly the ship in the first place.

There are relatively few corps that use t1 frigates on any kind of regular basis and the ones that do tend to blob them. You'll learn just as effectively with a 20m skillpoint character as a 2mil skillpoint character but you won't be smacking your forehead against the screen every time you realize it's 2 more days to train a skill before you can fit the next module.

While I would advise against throwing money away, its also worth noting that flying a better ship gives you more of a margin for error while you're learning. 60 extra seconds of fighting might be the 60 extra seconds for you to figure out "ooooooohhh, i fit close range weapons THAT's why he's kiting me" rather than dying in 10 seconds before you can even figure out which buttons to mash frantically.

Go for it. Worst case scenario, you resell the character with more skillpoints for more than you bought it for. Win-Win.

edit: Also, Brave Newbies doesn't care about your history. Put in an app and start blowing stuff up ASAP.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-06-23 22:22:10 UTC
Dally Lama wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Tepek Esubria wrote:
I doubt I can buy a character like you're describing for 5bil, which is the budget I have. lol
I sold a character recently for 11B that had 45M SP, had decent support skills, could fly pretty much everything T1, from all 4 races, up to and including battleships, as well as T3 cruisers and a couple of T2 ships effectively.

TL;DR You'll be surprised at what you can buy for your budget, I still wouldn't advise it for a newbie though.

Your character was worth 22.5bil minimum in terms of PLEX costs to get that much SP. Not sure why you sold it for 11 :P

Quoted for truth.

As for races, I recommend minmatar or gallente. They both have ships that can be fit a variety of ways, whether you're looking at scram range kiting in a slasher or breacher, mwd kiting in a slasher, atron or tristan, or brawling in a rifter or incursus. I don't know much about the firetail, but the Federation Navy Comet is supposed to be a pretty good ship to step into once you have a few wins under your belt.

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Starden Arnolles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2014-06-23 22:59:31 UTC
As several have posted, if your reason for buying a character is to be able to rush into PVP with success, skipping the learning curve by short-cutting the training time, the answer is it will not accomplish what you seek.

On the other hand, as Qalix pointed out in post #26, if you use it wisely you can learn quicker, gain experience faster and depending on how fast you learn, have more success faster, by doing it.

Other than PVP, it can enable you to do much the game has to offer at a higher and more profitable level in PVE.

I personally think it is a good move if you have the ISK, know you will stay with the game, and can discipline yourself to use it wisely until you get the experience to go with it.
L'ouris
Have Naught Subsidiaries
#29 - 2014-06-23 23:07:52 UTC
I am utterly amazed at how many folk look back fondly on their AWU V skilling time.....

No one, not even the op, indicated that T2 ships or even gear would be better to start in, but not many seem to remember the waiting to fit all their guns....
That Forum Belike
#30 - 2014-06-23 23:33:15 UTC
L'ouris wrote:
I am utterly amazed at how many folk look back fondly on their AWU V skilling time.....

No one, not even the op, indicated that T2 ships or even gear would be better to start in, but not many seem to remember the waiting to fit all their guns....


Ain't dat the got'danm truth?

I remember bustin' mah hump, runnin' all around with no support skills and readin' about fits mofukin FC was wantin' me to fly. Couldn't do none of em for 5 weeks. So like, there I be, month and a half jus flyin my skank-fit frigate into them suicide tackles. Sho'nuff liked to do it, but man it get old like hurry-up, you heard me?

Ain't never goin back to that skillpoint jail man. You gun hafta kill me.
L'ouris
Have Naught Subsidiaries
#31 - 2014-06-23 23:51:49 UTC
That Forum Belike wrote:
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Ain't never goin back to that skillpoint jail man. You gun hafta kill me.


I think I'm going to like you......
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#32 - 2014-06-24 00:03:38 UTC
L'ouris wrote:
That Forum Belike wrote:
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Ain't never goin back to that skillpoint jail man. You gun hafta kill me.


I think I'm going to like you......


I'm more puzzled why a forum alt has AWU 5 trained.

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Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2014-06-24 00:10:48 UTC
It's kinda like pokemon. Sure you can trade for a better one...but it's always going to have that dumb name.

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Titan's Lament

Bland Inquisitor
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2014-06-24 00:15:29 UTC
From experiance, no It will not cause you issues. Just remember to point out you recently purchased the toon and they can check the forums to confirm if your telling the truth or not.

Should you purchase a toon? in short, yes. Just be careful, Jumping a few years of training is amazing, so long as your ready to be able to use the skills :)
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