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A serious question for the EVE community RE: Player Conduct.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#101 - 2014-06-23 18:26:57 UTC
Common courtesy is to not speak ill of the dead, especially when it's one of our own.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#102 - 2014-06-23 18:28:32 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:

Because it's an opinion on something that's happened in the past, and not an imminent threat made against a living person.

It's in very bad taste, and I really don't like living in a world where people say these things but I think it's a very slippery slope if I let these feelings dictate who gets gagged and who doesn't.


Bad taste has been bannable for some time, Sibyyl. You might have missed the memo, Ripard Teg took it upon himself to open that particular can of worms a while back.

I personally believe that, if bad taste is bannable now, that such a doctrine be applied equally across the board.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#103 - 2014-06-23 18:29:39 UTC
^^ Hey Potato.. Can we stay on topic instead of making this another freighter ganking vs. CODE thread? There is already a thread for this discussion.

I think DJ wanted opinions on an unrelated matter and it's not fair to get his topic locked with this kind of way-off-topic debate.

I am in no way singling you out, or dislike you, or think of you any differently because of the things you do in EVE. Hugs.

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PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#104 - 2014-06-23 18:32:30 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Sibyyl wrote:

Because it's an opinion on something that's happened in the past, and not an imminent threat made against a living person.

It's in very bad taste, and I really don't like living in a world where people say these things but I think it's a very slippery slope if I let these feelings dictate who gets gagged and who doesn't.


Bad taste has been bannable for some time, Sibyyl. You might have missed the memo, Ripard Teg took it upon himself to open that particular can of worms a while back.

I personally believe that, if bad taste is bannable now, that such a doctrine be applied equally across the board.

Bad taste has been bannable in Eve long before E1 or Ripard Teg started playing eve. For example: Linking pron gifs in jita local.
Evei Shard
Shard Industries
#105 - 2014-06-23 18:39:59 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Common courtesy is to not speak ill of the dead,

Sounds noble enough

Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
especially when it's one of our own.

but then you go and completely invalidate it with this. This states that in your eyes there *are* situations in which it is acceptable. Probably when it's someone who isn't "one of your own".

Which is what the rage in this thread boils down to. VR apparently needs to be set aside as a special case where permanent banning needs to take place because he was a notable figure in the eyes of some alliances and groups.

If VR had been a carebear that kept to NPC corps or had a 1man mining corp for himself, the only threads we would have seen on the forum would have been "can I have his stuff?", even if the notice of passing was posted by the persons widow.

If CCP wants to ban people for speaking in a derogatory manner of the dead, it needs to apply equally to everyone. It's fine to set a precedent with VR, he's probably a good example of how someone can affect communities even after they are gone, but the rule needs to apply evenly to everyone, even carebears.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#106 - 2014-06-23 18:41:32 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Evei Shard wrote:

but then you go and completely invalidate it with this. This states that in your eyes there *are* situations in which it is acceptable. Probably when it's someone who isn't "one of your own".


"one of our own" means EVE player,*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Komi Toran
Perkone
Caldari State
#107 - 2014-06-23 18:42:19 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
I personally believe that, if bad taste is bannable now, that such a doctrine be applied equally across the board.

I'd much rather CCP apologize to Ero and reinstate the account(s).

'Course, I'd rather a lot of things happen.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#108 - 2014-06-23 21:23:04 UTC
Right, after having done some background reading, reading the entire thread and finding out a previous thread on the same subject already existed (albeit locked), I have come to the conclusion it would be best to leave this thread locked.

I have however removed the most obvious rule breaking posts, mainly consisting of blatant personal attacks, trolling and lines about forum moderation and/or GM actions and bans. Of course including the ones quoting them.
Let me assure you, if I would also have removed all off topic posts and posts containing minor rule infractions, this thread would have been reduced to less than two pages.

Thread indefinitely locked.

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