Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hy,

I support the move back to high sec with a difficulty that furthers group play and makes solo running impossible and adjusted payout.

With a reformed mission system (which I might suggest on a later time/working on it) I would rather see two options with the related agent, like they are for some L4 epic arcs. One leads to low sec which is easier/faster to finish with higher payout, the other to high sec, where more force is required and takes longer with less payout, but still ahead of L4s run efficiently solo.

And there is nothing against adding L5s to the pirate factions ,)

+1

Bringing back level 5 missions in to High Sec.

First, explain.. and in regards to my suggestions too, pls.

Second, I already lectured her about it, which is why she opened a proper thread now. I approve for once.



Can you extrapolate ? Low sec being dependent on L5s for High Sec NPC Corps is quite new to me. Any personal experience, any other data ?

lol 3 posts in 2 days is totally spamming the forums......


As far as moving Lvl 5 missions making low sec worse.... There are still lvl 4's in low sec right?

I dont seem to remember complaints of LvL5's being an ISK Faucet the last time they were located in hi-sec. I don't see how it would be this time either especially with reduced rewards if moved to Hi-sec.

Perhaps just adding Lvl 5 mission content to hi-sec or null while leaving low sec as is......


Just a thought.

I already suggested that it could be nice thing to create few LVL 5 agents for higsec factions in NPC nullsec.
I think there is no point for creating lvl 5 missions in higsec , as the same thing can be obtained by creating new LVL 4 missions.
Much more harder , having more spawns, and more rooms.

think dual boxed rattlesnakes.....We have to define solo here. Solo in terms of eve covers 1 player, 2 chars.


Passive tank fit. That can be cheap...Base hull is even cheap.

So it basically negates the neut towers that make level 5 fun (need I mention high slots are also not using cap and fire out to well over 120 km's ammo/skills depending easy) .and stays low on gank radars. Not gank proof but most will go find an easier target that won't be a grind. A grind that will most likely not cover losses to pop.

And rattlesnake just got a nice redo...it be bringing some nice dps to level 5 this time around.

You can also put in certain navy scorp fits. they did well in empire lv 5's as well as I recall.


the move to low sec was to add some risk to the reward. If ccp can't make you fear the npc rats and towers....well then fear the player pirates.

In empire there was no risk run with the right fit and tactics. Like I said in some other thread....the hardest part of these was running gate camps to get the mission from the low sec agent. Unless really bad or really unlucky this was not among the hardest tasks in eve one can do.


I know it was said cut down the rewards. Okay...how much? It have to pay exactly the same as level 4. I'll be a **** and and say range goes from the lows to highs of level 4 to keep balance. Put another way....level 5 is not paying out worlds collide full wipe at least every time. It will also pay out the crap rates of the crappiest drone missions. Otherwise it would be abused as a faucet. Like it was in the past. For consistent WC pay every time if not some more isk ....I'd be tempted to wake up my second rattlesnake pilot and kit her up with the main in a rattlesnake. Or find a nice ogb boost setup if too lazy to alt tab the killing lol.

searched up OP on eve-kill expecting a loss in lowsec, did not find one (nor a kill).


Leave Level 5s in lowsec, that's where they need to be for their massive reward. You want more LP? Lose the police backup.

This (and I didn't even run L5s).

@Op
They were in HS at one time and removed because it was not intended by CCP.
The "HS Corps" offering those L5s in lowsec actually aren't "HS Corps" but rather just corps that have a presence in both HS and LS. HS doesn't own them.

THEY AREN'T YOUR SLAVES!

Anomalies and combat signatures that're more difficult than L4's are plentiful.

Not sure what the obsession with staying in high sec is. It's like refusing to do anything beyond level 20 content in any other MMO, or buying a racing game and only using 1 car for the first 3 tracks.

There are plenty of alliances out there that will happily accept any carebear willing to pay corp taxes just for the extra revenue, so go ahead and work your way up the ladder until you're a full-fledged nullbear, step back into high sec for some risk free incursion farming when you're ready for that and after you spend some time in WH's before getting evicted because you didn't have any reasonable PvP corpmates to hold your hand you can come back to high sec and ask for more PvE content. But stop asking for all of the PvE content to be moved to high sec, it makes the game pretty damn boring for everybody else, and they are the majority.