Missions & Complexes

Yes, I agree, Incursions are better left alone regarding locality, a CSM thread is already up if anyone is interested in changing something (else). Low sec incursions run mostly out of time, I see the same for 0.0, while all high sec will be done. Island Incursion are done by some brave men ... but finished quick to spawn normal ones. And since those usually are t3 only, not many common BS players can follow.

I doubt that with L4s being moved to low sec will mean anyone from high sec is going to run them there, it already killed L5s for single and small corp players, probably for the rest too. That practically would kill high sec PvE too. Some things are better left untouched, not everyone is a corp, alliance or pvp player and non should be forced to be such.

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Why do you have such an absurd hate boner for low sec?

It's a place to grab people moving from safe null comunities to high sec. Goods need to be moved and we need a place for PvP guys to pick them off. That is what low secs main purpose is. FW and L5's is just filler to keep pirates entertained like the rest of the community. Low sec is nice as is.

YAY If they are so bored then do the Lvl4's that are there. Low sec being nice.... ya... said noone ever.

Topic here is Lvl 5's being moved from Low and mining missions of all lvls not having an option to mine a few real rocks like many security missions so I'm going to stick to that. If you want to debate why Low Sec sucks or doesnt suck enough, PM me or find and join one of the many threads already discussing that subject.


Thank you for your insight!!!

Lowsec is fine the way it is, what you're suggesting are nerfs to lowsec just to please your whims and fancy. Ff you don't want to come to low to do L5 missions, then don't. Same with your other question, if the rocks are ****** in mining missions, then don't do them, go to null or mine from the security missions with decent rocks. It's as simple as that really.

So OP's complaint is that there is risk in lowsec



Yes, I can certainly see how that would be a problem to some ****** who just wants to chain missions until he gets carpal tunnel in sov null

You implied that L5 missions should ideally be in high-sec or null-sec. L5 missions in lowsec is a working mechanic that only you seem to be suggesting to be moved. That's a complaint. You're pretty much telling everyone who says that the mechanic is fine that they're stupid and their input is useless. You're painting yourself as a risk averse pilot who wants nothing more than to 'improve' missions for your own benefit.

However I will say that you do have a fair point that mining missions are indeed useless and need an overhaul, but I have no experience with mining so it's not for me to suggest how. L5 missions however, are working fine.

We shall have to agree to disagree. Low sec was not always the home for Lvl5 missions and therefore indicative of a fluid nature. As far as calling people who disagree useless or stupid...this is true only of those who come over as such. Saying Lvl5 missions should stay in low sec just because isn't input, especially when they come across as trolls.

I feel the Lvl5's should be moved not due to risk (last time I checked there is risk in null sec) but to open them up to a larger amount of the game's playerbase. If I'm complaining about anything at all it is that valueable game content is being restricted to a very small niche when it could be opened up for more player consumption (a goal that could also be met in mining missions if a few mineable rocks were added). If there is something other than an emotional attachment to Lvl5 missions being only low sec content....I am more than open to listen. Just because you say "working as intended" or say OP is complaining/whining doesn't lend to the discussion and is useless to me.

Telling me that if I dont like something that I suggest to go play another game or talking down to me in the course of the thread in order to make yourself feel superior without lending anything to the discussion will always be labeled as stupid.

The only arguement made for keeping LvL5's in low far that I can appreciate is risk vs reward to which I submitted the idea of lowering the reward for a move to hi-sec.

There is also the thought that if lvl 4 missions can exist in Hi-sec and Lo-sec why cant Lvl 5 missions exist in both as well....

Quite a few of my buddies love to run lvl 5s in low, it gives them the chance to combine pvp with pve, the mission gives payout enough for a fleet and a "pve" fleet invites a lot of attempted pirate attacks. Take it from lowsec and slap it into hisec and thats a whole playstyle gone, true they can just do lvl 4s, but honestly how can lvl 4s be worth a fleet running?

How about we leave lvl 5s where they are, if hisec carebears want lots of risk free isk go do incursions, with them you just have to push the button and receive bacon, sounds like your style Tennej.