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CCP, show miners some love. Please.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#21 - 2014-06-21 23:11:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Ncc 1709 wrote:
those opposed to mining buffs usually don't realise that less mining loss's means cheaper minerals meaning cheaper pvp ships.

yet nearly every pvper complains about the increasing costs of pvp ships
Conversely I mine, the more people who explode while mining through being AFK, the better for those of us that don't because we actually play the game. I can point out at least 2 PvPers in this thread that also mine with their alts, I doubt that they're alone in that, ergo your point is moot.

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Mallak Azaria
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#22 - 2014-06-21 23:12:24 UTC
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
mining ships are left intentionally squishy.


Procurer hull

Therefore, no



Wow.....one whole mining ship. Roll


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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#23 - 2014-06-21 23:14:06 UTC
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
Why is it that those most opposed to mining buffs are non-miners?


Why is it that non-miners are better at fitting mining barges than miners?
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-06-21 23:14:29 UTC
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
Why is it that those most opposed to mining buffs are non-miners?


Why is it that those most in favour of more mining buffs are the ones too lazy to utilise previous buffs to mining?

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#25 - 2014-06-21 23:16:19 UTC
Ncc 1709 wrote:
those opposed to mining buffs usually don't realise that less mining loss's means cheaper minerals


Why do you want to crash the market?

Dont you realise that if you avoided losing your ship you'd be able to mine more?

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#26 - 2014-06-21 23:16:23 UTC
Ncc 1709 wrote:
those opposed to mining buffs usually don't realise that less mining loss's means cheaper minerals meaning cheaper pvp ships.

yet nearly every pvper complains about the increasing costs of pvp ships
Did you manage to post that and keep a straight face?

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Bohneik Itohn
10.K
#27 - 2014-06-21 23:19:58 UTC
Ncc 1709 wrote:
those opposed to mining buffs usually don't realise that less mining loss's means cheaper minerals meaning cheaper pvp ships.

yet nearly every pvper complains about the increasing costs of pvp ships



No complaints here. The barges and income lost by inattentive players has virtually no impact on market prices, because there are many more out there that do pay attention and keep their profit margin intact.

The ships I frequently use, with the exception of some pirate faction ships which saw an increase in popularity with the rebalance, have been declining in cost since I've started playing. Pirate

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Ramona McCandless
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#28 - 2014-06-21 23:20:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Mag's wrote:
Ncc 1709 wrote:
those opposed to mining buffs usually don't realise that less mining loss's means cheaper minerals meaning cheaper pvp ships.

yet nearly every pvper complains about the increasing costs of pvp ships
Did you manage to post that and keep a straight face?


He's just sore because the USS Lexington couldnt even take a bot when it the Excalibur the Hood and the Yorktown blobbed the Enterprise when it was operating the under the M5 computer

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#29 - 2014-06-21 23:21:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
This thread is a perfect example to demonstrate that everytime carebears receive a buff, instead of making use of the tools available to them to overcome pvp situations, they just come whinging in the forum for more buffs for themselves and more nerfs to others.

Go use what's already available to you and stop QQing in the forum. We are all going to drown soon.
Bohneik Itohn
10.K
#30 - 2014-06-21 23:25:49 UTC
This thread got me curious so I decided to check out the killboards. I am now incredibly amused.

It seems CODE has been losing a crapload of Catalysts to properly tanked Skiffs without getting any satisfaction since the patch, I suggest everyone observe this moment in Eve history for posterity.

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Jonah Gravenstein
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#31 - 2014-06-21 23:26:02 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Go use what's already available to you and stop QQing in the forum. We are all going to drown soon.
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Deedspace Consortium
#32 - 2014-06-21 23:31:00 UTC
I have already **** on this same exact topic in the mining barge thread, stop posting the same **** over again.
Scipio Artelius
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Flying Dangerous
#33 - 2014-06-21 23:34:55 UTC
Smugest Sniper wrote:
... stop posting the same **** over again.

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Grunnax Aurelius
Banana-Republic.
Shadow Cartel
#34 - 2014-06-21 23:36:33 UTC
TANK FITTED BARGES ARE ACTUALLY THE HIGH YIELD FIT YA KNOW!!!

HIGH YEILD FITS ARE ACTUALLY 0 YIELD FITS..... CAUSE YA GET GANKED!!!

now to you understand?

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Bohneik Itohn
10.K
#35 - 2014-06-21 23:40:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Bohneik Itohn
Still looking at the killboards and it seems only about 1 in 15 Procurers are being destroyed in high sec, and 7 out of 8 of those are between warring corps.

It also seems to take about 80m isk in Catalysts to suicide gank a 30m Procurer.

I think I'm going to go fit one out and hit the belts, see if I can't bait CODE into thinking I'm AFK. This looks like some virtually risk free PvP.

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Jonah Gravenstein
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#36 - 2014-06-21 23:48:21 UTC
^^ Doing it right.

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#37 - 2014-06-21 23:49:25 UTC
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
In response to: Ganking miners - What do you get from it?


Miners are at a terrible disadvantage in EVE. The dilemma, how to maximize your mining output while protecting yourself from lulz gankers.

In the world of predator vs prey, EVE favors the predator every time.

I can prove it: Auto WTZ will never be implemented. Why? Not because it makes it easier for the prey, but because it makes it harder for the predator.

Since mining ships have virtually no offensive capabilities, they should have major defensive ones IMO. Mining ships should be as heavily tanked as Deep Space Transports.

Also, I’ve notice there are no hard launcher points on mining ships....I cant fit missiles. So mining ships are left intentionally squishy.

My thoughts abbreviated for the OP. There are multitudes of options; both from the mechanics of the game and through social interaction to achieve your goals. if you're not capable of using them that's not the game's fault. That's your own mistaken assumptions and inaction at play.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#38 - 2014-06-21 23:52:46 UTC
So, EVE favors those who take initiative? No ****? Roll

Oh, and by the way. If you play a game and decide to cast yourself in the role of a prey animal, you shouldn't be surprised if the people who cast themselves as predator animals try to eat you. In fact, since you made an active choice to be a prey animal, you should be behaving with this in mind, instead of falling asleep next to the watering hole.

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#39 - 2014-06-22 00:03:33 UTC  |  Edited by: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Ncc 1709 wrote:
those opposed to mining buffs usually don't realise that less mining loss's means cheaper minerals meaning cheaper pvp ships.

yet nearly every pvper complains about the increasing costs of pvp ships

uh, I haven't heard a single complaint about increase in pvp ship costs.

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Amarr Empire
#40 - 2014-06-22 00:07:09 UTC
Grunnax Aurelius wrote:
TANK FITTED BARGES ARE ACTUALLY THE HIGH YIELD FIT YA KNOW!!!

HIGH YEILD FITS ARE ACTUALLY 0 YIELD FITS..... CAUSE YA GET GANKED!!!

now to you understand?


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