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Jade Dragonis1
The Jaded Dragons
#1 - 2014-06-21 10:46:01 UTC
Hey all,

I have seen the sad changes to the Rattlesnake that has reduced drone bay and bandwith. But that is what it is.

What is your favourite drone boat to use?

Cheers
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-06-21 10:49:44 UTC
Rattlesnake.

Did you read the bonuses?
Jade Dragonis1
The Jaded Dragons
#3 - 2014-06-21 10:51:02 UTC
Yeah I read them. But having two sentries out there even with long range cruise missiles just seems a little soft to me.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-06-21 10:58:30 UTC
Two sentries with the same damage as before, with a whole lot more tank.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#5 - 2014-06-21 10:59:14 UTC
Ishtar.

Why do you want to know?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#6 - 2014-06-21 11:05:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Jade Dragonis1 wrote:
Yeah I read them. But having two sentries out there even with long range cruise missiles just seems a little soft to me.

With the 275% bonus to damage and HP you're getting an effective 5.5 7.5 drones, compared to unbonused drones, with only 2 brick tanked drones on the field, how is that soft?

edit ~ I derped, thanks to Rannasha Kore for the correction

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Zero Sum Gain
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-06-21 11:15:22 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Jade Dragonis1 wrote:
Yeah I read them. But having two sentries out there even with long range cruise missiles just seems a little soft to me.

With the 275% bonus to damage and HP you're getting an effective 5.5 drones, compared to unbonused drones, with only 2 brick tanked drones on the field, how is that soft?


Brick tanked, I like that. We should start calling paper thin hulls straw tanked and everything inbetween stick tank.
Rannasha Kore
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-06-21 11:15:55 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Jade Dragonis1 wrote:
Yeah I read them. But having two sentries out there even with long range cruise missiles just seems a little soft to me.

With the 275% bonus to damage and HP you're getting an effective 5.5 drones, compared to unbonused drones, with only 2 brick tanked drones on the field, how is that soft?


The bonus is 275%, which comes on top of the standard 100%, to make a total multiplier of 375%. So those 2 drones actually do the damage of 7.5 unbonused drones.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#9 - 2014-06-21 11:27:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Rannasha Kore wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Jade Dragonis1 wrote:
Yeah I read them. But having two sentries out there even with long range cruise missiles just seems a little soft to me.

With the 275% bonus to damage and HP you're getting an effective 5.5 drones, compared to unbonused drones, with only 2 brick tanked drones on the field, how is that soft?


The bonus is 275%, which comes on top of the standard 100%, to make a total multiplier of 375%. So those 2 drones actually do the damage of 7.5 unbonused drones.
Thanks for the correction Big smile, I failed to take that into account, I've edited my post accordingly.

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Ned Black
Driders
#10 - 2014-06-21 11:30:20 UTC
Now put out a gecko and let things feel the wrath
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#11 - 2014-06-21 12:05:23 UTC
Ned Black wrote:
Now put out a gecko and let things feel the wrath
I've not tried the Gecko ingame yet but did a little theorycrafting with EveHQ. Damn thing puts out 700+ DPS all by itself with 3x DDA and the Rattlesnake bonus's, it's basically a remote control BC; add RHMLs to the mix and the Snake gets scary good for PvE, me likey.

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Li Quiao
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2014-06-21 12:27:52 UTC
Zero Sum Gain wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Jade Dragonis1 wrote:
Yeah I read them. But having two sentries out there even with long range cruise missiles just seems a little soft to me.

With the 275% bonus to damage and HP you're getting an effective 5.5 drones, compared to unbonused drones, with only 2 brick tanked drones on the field, how is that soft?


Brick tanked, I like that. We should start calling paper thin hulls straw tanked and everything inbetween stick tank.


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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-06-21 14:28:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Hasikan Miallok
Was the Domi but my mission alt has switched over to the Rattlesnake post patch.

My rough estimate is the rattlesnake is about 10-20% faster than the Domi with my mission alts skills, partly because of the silly DPS of the rattlesnake at 80-100km and partly due to T2 Bouncers and Garde losing some DPS on the Domi.


Do not use either boat in PvP.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2014-06-21 14:33:38 UTC
Ned Black wrote:
Now put out a gecko and let things feel the wrath


Even with the Rattlesnake 2.75 x hitpoints you really do now want to send the gecko out more than 15 -20 km if its webbed you may have trouble reeling it back. I have lost a few.

That said its awesome up close against everyhting but really fast frigates and they are now cheap enough that you can afford to replace one every few missions in level IVs.
Ned Black
Driders
#15 - 2014-06-21 14:46:35 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Ned Black wrote:
Now put out a gecko and let things feel the wrath


Even with the Rattlesnake 2.75 x hitpoints you really do now want to send the gecko out more than 15 -20 km if its webbed you may have trouble reeling it back. I have lost a few.

That said its awesome up close against everyhting but really fast frigates and they are now cheap enough that you can afford to replace one every few missions in level IVs.


I know.

With the target switching that is a bad way of doing business. But DAMN those things hit hard.

If an ishtar however you can put out two of those suckers and circle the target at point blank range.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#16 - 2014-06-21 18:25:53 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Ned Black wrote:
Now put out a gecko and let things feel the wrath


Even with the Rattlesnake 2.75 x hitpoints you really do now want to send the gecko out more than 15 -20 km if its webbed you may have trouble reeling it back. I have lost a few.

That said its awesome up close against everyhting but really fast frigates and they are now cheap enough that you can afford to replace one every few missions in level IVs.



I suspect that the last thing I want is to have an assault frigate orbiting me that I can't hit while watching it kill my geckos. At this rate the geckos might be worth more than the ship. What?

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#17 - 2014-06-21 18:33:55 UTC
Put a target painter on the offending NPC frigate and have the Gecko engage it. Friggy goes *poof* after a few seconds. Rinse and repeat.

Also... do not dismiss the awesomeness that is the Drone Durability Rig.

How did you Veterans start?
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#18 - 2014-06-21 20:23:19 UTC
I'm appalled at the Rattlesnake price crash. On the one hand, the best BS ingame is as cheap as it used to be... but on the other, I speculated and bought way too many and lost too much.

Gila/Rattlesnake are the answers to the question though. How many ships can tank God and still dish out 1500 dps?

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2014-06-21 21:58:04 UTC
Rannasha Kore wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Jade Dragonis1 wrote:
Yeah I read them. But having two sentries out there even with long range cruise missiles just seems a little soft to me.

With the 275% bonus to damage and HP you're getting an effective 5.5 drones, compared to unbonused drones, with only 2 brick tanked drones on the field, how is that soft?


The bonus is 275%, which comes on top of the standard 100%, to make a total multiplier of 375%. So those 2 drones actually do the damage of 7.5 unbonused drones.

Which is the same damage as 5 drones bonused with 10% per level at level 5 (5 * 1.5 = 7.5).

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2014-06-21 22:14:51 UTC
I have to say I love my Gila, best drone boat ever.
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