Player Features and Ideas Discussion

And how hard is it to understand that u find out when u find out. U'll be asked for feedback when feedback from u is warranted.


Of course i care. And im interested in whats next too. Just dnt understand the need to poke CCP with a stick until they tell us. If u didnt want me to reply u would have ignored my first post. But instead two of u have mistaken what the OP was actually about and are making up unfounded fears of not being able to provide feedback and using as an excuse for ur impatience.



In the old style of releases maybe. But the new system of releasing expansions allows much greater flexibility as to what goes where. They have a plan of what they want over a period, maybe 6 months, maybe a year. But it becomes much less definitive per expansion.

Instead, what may happen now is:

They have teams. Those teams have tasks to do over this period. As each of those tasks come close to finishing they can estimate a time of completion for them and see where that comes in on the release cycle. They then make a dev blog about it saying it will make it to whichever release.

Therefore the lack of blogs/stickies about ship balances may suggest that no such work is close enough to completion to reasonably expect it to make this release. You'll find out when u find out.


I would not say that is a natural assumption. Do u mean to say anticipate?

There is no longer 2 months between releases. If u want 2 months to provide feedback for rebalances then ask CCP to announce them 2 expansions ahead. With the new release system there will be much fewer features per release. I would not assume rebalances make each and every one.



'i want, and i want NOW!'

I ask again,
What makes u think the changes are even on paper yet? What makes u think a sticky wont go up as soon as those changes are ready for feedback? What makes u think CCP are withholding this information from u? are u ever going to answer these questions?

if the community is unhappy with the first round of changes and there is no time to update them, features can be pushed back. That is the entire point of the new release system.

So now its less about how the ships are getting rebalanced and more about what ships are getting rebalanced. And not because u need to know but because u want to know.

Way to back track.

Truth is, we dnt know how rebalances are worked on behind the scenes. They may be working on any number of rebalances simultaneously, any of which may or may not be any where near completion. They may not have even decided what will come next, they may not have decided if anything will make Crius or not. They will let us know when they think we need to know.

I dont understand what u think u'll accomplish by demanding they release the information now and id be genuinely surprised if they use this thread to reveal the next rebalances.

Yeah i read the OP. Did u when u wrote this?



This is clearly talking about feedback on how ships are changed. Not just what ships are changed. Same goes with Nevyn's posts. Nevyn even makes a post that basically says 'If they arent releasing ships in Crius, they should tell us!'

But now u've admitted u dnt need to know so u acknowledge this is pretty much just a thread poking CCP because ur impatient.

All im saying is:
U'll find out when u find out.

You do know that Crius isn't going to be a major release patch, right? We're looking at more of a "well ****, this isn't going to be ready in time for Kronos, but we don't want to make people wait until the winter patch, so we're delaying it for a month and a half and calling it Crius." patch.

IIRC all of the changes announced in Crius were originally announced as being part of Kronos until they said in a Dev Blog that instead the Pirate/Ship balance changes would be released in Kronos and they'd be putting Crius in at a tentative release date of July 22nd.

It's up to CCP if they want to put anything else they may have kinda finished by that time into Crius as well, but it's unlikely that they'll do anything other than what they say they intend to change so far.


But seriously, they're on the 6 month release cycle. We've had our major ship balance patch for summer already in the form of Kronos. Next major ship patch is in Winter. Calm your ****, they don't need to release any patch notes for the upcoming ship balancing patch for another few months.

Why?

They can start a sticky for a ship rebalance whenever they want, two days before Crius if they want, and there is nothing that says they have to release within a certain time frame (except maybe Hilmar). They can delay to collect feedback for as long as they feel is necessary and then when they are happy they can put it into whatever the next release is. When they update TQ they don't copy and paste from SiSi, so u can have ships undergoing rebalancing on there through several releases if need be. The entire point of the new release system is being able to delay releases until everything is hunky dory.

Your concerns are still unfounded.

And what if CCP aren't releasing rebalanced ships for another 6 months? do u still need to know today what the next ship will be?

from now on, all references to 'a need' are directed at Nevyn's words, not urs. If u feel like ive been infringing ur rights or just flat out dont recognise them, ur quite silly. Putting aside the fact that posting on the forums is a privilege in itself...

Not only can i disagree, but i can express my non-understanding for this thread and that u think asking like this will accomplish anything. And when i think ur exhibiting inclinations of entitlement and impatience and then trying to disguise them as fears that are actually irrational, i'll point it out to u. Ill even make suggestions that u clearly havent considered as to why there has been no word from CCP, like that there may not even be a ship rebalance for Crius or even the expansion after, and that CCP may not have even yet decided whats next to be rebalanced.

Subject to forum rules of course.

kil2 will tell you what gets nerfed next after the cartel reps tell him.

I think very next thing for me is going back to Battleships and HACs for polish passes now that they've been out in the wild awhile and there's some room for improvements.

Black ops and Recons are both on the short list after that but I'm not sure exactly what the schedule will be (Summer is crazy in Europe, they let you just not go to work).

love you

And with that i think mr negativity have been proven wrong, if players ask enough someone will reply

I second that question. Armageddon is working fine.