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most profitable mission running system

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Bateau Erinys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-06-20 00:03:23 UTC
Hi folks, I'm fairly new to mission running. just kinda wonder if there is any traditional high profit system/ NPC corp to grind the LV4 security mission? in terms of sec level, logistic, and LP ratio.
many thanks!
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-06-20 00:12:23 UTC
Bateau Erinys wrote:
Hi folks, I'm fairly new to mission running. just kinda wonder if there is any traditional high profit system/ NPC corp to grind the LV4 security mission? in terms of sec level, logistic, and LP ratio.
many thanks!


there isnt one in my opinion. best payout u will receive from agents in .5 if u wanna only run in hs.
There are mission hubs but there is also the chance the highest to encounter gankers.
And best LP ration use Lp store or lp store calculator
0rch1d
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#3 - 2014-06-20 00:16:16 UTC
Oh that'd be low sec.

Just post your fit and I'll tell you exactly where to go.

Make sure you load up with all your faction gear (leave nothing behind) just in case you need to change hardeners at the nearest station. Also put as much as will fit in your cargo.

It'll be great. Trust me.
Lychenko Kumamato
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-06-20 01:01:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Lychenko Kumamato
Sisters of Eve are pretty much always the highest isk/LP in highsec, with sporradic market fluctuations causing some exceptions to that rule.

Full disclosure: I periodically gank the **** out of that particular system with friends and corpmates because it's a haven for bling-pinata mission ships. If you're planning on pimp fitting something to bring out, I'd refrain from donig so in US or EU prime, make several bookmarks for undocking and inspecting gates, and avoid combat probes, aggressive drones, or launching an MTU as all of those things will increase the odds you'll be one of my victims.

You may be wondering why i'm giving the game away. Well, odds are good you won't heed my advice in full and even if you do, most players out there don't, even after they lose a ship or two.

Good luck and hope to see you soon. Blink
Bateau Erinys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-06-20 01:06:04 UTC
wow.....you guys have some very informative replies. :)
thanks a lot.... though I thought I wouldn't fly a pimp ship around.. still appreciate that
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2014-06-20 01:24:03 UTC
As stated 0.5 agents give the best rewards in terms of LP and the most consistent high LP/ISK conversion is SOE.

Overall the best way of converting SOE LP to ISK tends to be buying Sisters Probes and Sisters Launchers and selling those. However occasionally the prices of Astero will jump up making them a good way to cash in.

If your flying a Domi then the 0.5 SOE IV agent at Lanngisi is particularly optimal as the best sentry for use with the new omni's is the Bouncer which happen to match well the Angel mission types you get a lot in Lanngisi.

Downside of Lanngisi is the prices are a touch low in Hek/Rens. However its a simple matter to save up the LP and every few days make an intie run or clone jump to Dodi or Amarr to cash in.

The other downside of Lanngisi is its only two jumps from the 'nado ganker gangs based around Hek. Avoid faction modules and you will be fine.


Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#7 - 2014-06-20 01:28:19 UTC
MTU's work fine as long as you launch after you clear rooms/missions and come back in something else to clean up.
Dato Koppla
Kiwis In Space
Shadow Cartel
#8 - 2014-06-20 01:30:15 UTC
Bateau Erinys wrote:
wow.....you guys have some very informative replies. :)
thanks a lot.... though I thought I wouldn't fly a pimp ship around.. still appreciate that


Generally speaking, the best systems to mission in are with Sisters of Eve Level 4 Agents because they have a stable high-value LP store. There are a few choices, Lanngisi, Osmon and Apananke. Osmon is very popular because it's close to Jita. Personally I would go with Lanngisi because it's in Minmatar space so you'll mostly face Angel rats which are by far the best rats to mission against, they come right up in your face so you can run close range gank setups (AC Mach absolutely demolishes Angel missions) to maximize your efficiency, and their E-War is a joke (unlike Guristas/Serpentis/Sansha which can be a huge pain). Lanngisi is also a 0.5 system IIRC so you get better LP/Mission reward payouts than Osmon. It's also not too far from Hek which isn't as good as Jita, but a decent tradehub. However gankers know this as well so don't fly something stupidly pimped, I used to fly a Mach with 3x RF Gyrostabs and a Pith C-Type X-Large shield booster as the only pimp on it and never had any attempted ganks so unless you fly with a massive amount of pimp modules you'll be fine.
Carniflex
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
#9 - 2014-06-20 02:35:16 UTC
Jeanne-Luise Argenau wrote:
Bateau Erinys wrote:
Hi folks, I'm fairly new to mission running. just kinda wonder if there is any traditional high profit system/ NPC corp to grind the LV4 security mission? in terms of sec level, logistic, and LP ratio.
many thanks!


there isnt one in my opinion. best payout u will receive from agents in .5 if u wanna only run in hs.
There are mission hubs but there is also the chance the highest to encounter gankers.
And best LP ration use Lp store or lp store calculator


The LP store calculator is incomplete missing some of the more reasonable offers in the couple LP stores I checked. In particular the BPC offers.

Sisters is a good bet as you do not have to compete with FW missions which make most items pretty much worthless in "regular" LP stores for anything that can be got from FW LP store - as a dedicated runner there can push north of 200 000 LP / hour in decent tier on top of having some items at significant LP discount in their faction warfare LP store.

As far as low sec mission-running goes I would advice against it for regular missions. If you are already sticking your neck out skip the zoo and either farm faction warfare missions or do them in null sec for some "pirate" faction. You would need also a back plan in the form of some kind alt who can entertain you if space weather is unsuitable for a little while if you pick null/FW as your area of operations.

Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... THWONK! GOT the bastard.

Carniflex
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
#10 - 2014-06-20 02:44:27 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
Bateau Erinys wrote:
wow.....you guys have some very informative replies. :)
thanks a lot.... though I thought I wouldn't fly a pimp ship around.. still appreciate that


Generally speaking, the best systems to mission in are with Sisters of Eve Level 4 Agents because they have a stable high-value LP store. There are a few choices, Lanngisi, Osmon and Apananke. Osmon is very popular because it's close to Jita. Personally I would go with Lanngisi because it's in Minmatar space so you'll mostly face Angel rats which are by far the best rats to mission against, they come right up in your face so you can run close range gank setups (AC Mach absolutely demolishes Angel missions) to maximize your efficiency, and their E-War is a joke (unlike Guristas/Serpentis/Sansha which can be a huge pain). Lanngisi is also a 0.5 system IIRC so you get better LP/Mission reward payouts than Osmon. It's also not too far from Hek which isn't as good as Jita, but a decent tradehub. However gankers know this as well so don't fly something stupidly pimped, I used to fly a Mach with 3x RF Gyrostabs and a Pith C-Type X-Large shield booster as the only pimp on it and never had any attempted ganks so unless you fly with a massive amount of pimp modules you'll be fine.



I would not count on Hek as your local trade hub. There are often shortages of mission running related equipment / ammunition in there. For example, T2 logi drones or the other night both Hek and Rens were all out of T2 Cruise launchers. Granted it's something like 4th or 5th largest hub so the volumes are probably not good enough for many people to bother with it.

Lanngisi is good spot, in general, as when you hit 4h timer there is a minmatar L4 combat agent from Krusual tribe next door in Nakugard who can entertain you meanwhile. Eventually running for sisters drags your standings with minmatar high enough if you do not want to get standings up for Krusual specifically. There is also Amarr L4 sec agent in Barkrik for standings balancing if you need it. However - there is a significant quirk in there which can cut into your isk/h by some amount depending on what hardware you are using and how fast you do them - Barkrik is huge system, sisters agent just loves to send you there and if you are in a BS you can spend about minute and half in warp to your mission in Barkrik and that same minute and half for getting back to Lanngisi. Mach is a bit better in that regard ofc and/or T2 warp speed rigs can be quite reasonable investment if you are in pimp enough ride to blitz missions in less than 15-10 minute on average.

Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... THWONK! GOT the bastard.

Bateau Erinys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2014-06-20 02:44:38 UTC
[quote= Personally I would go with Lanngisi because it's in Minmatar space so you'll mostly face Angel rats which are by far the best rats to mission against, [/quote]

I never did sisters mission before. Is the rat type based on region or sister's standing? What kind of faction should I expect to encounter?

Also thanks a lot.
Kurtz
Eldorado Exploration Expedition
#12 - 2014-06-20 03:14:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Kurtz
For the part yes. The agent tends to send you on missions against the local rats, however there is some bias. If I run for a Caldari agent in Minmatar space I will get a sprinkle of Gurista missions. For the SOE you tend to get Sepentis for the sprinkle.

You will be offered faction missions, in addition to the every 15 missions storyline mission. These are solely based upon the agent affiliation. SOE sends you against Amarr & Caldari. If you don't want standing hits to these factions you have to decline those missions.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-06-20 03:14:47 UTC
Bateau Erinys wrote:
Quote:
Personally I would go with Lanngisi because it's in Minmatar space so you'll mostly face Angel rats which are by far the best rats to mission against,


I never did sisters mission before. Is the rat type based on region or sister's standing? What kind of faction should I expect to encounter?

Also thanks a lot.
For pirate missions they favor the local pirate factions. For Lanngisi that means Angels as mentioned. SOE does seem to get occasionally obsessed with trying to make you kill the Amarr though, only real downside to missioning for them other than the increased activity.
Dato Koppla
Kiwis In Space
Shadow Cartel
#14 - 2014-06-20 04:55:30 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Bateau Erinys wrote:
Quote:
Personally I would go with Lanngisi because it's in Minmatar space so you'll mostly face Angel rats which are by far the best rats to mission against,


I never did sisters mission before. Is the rat type based on region or sister's standing? What kind of faction should I expect to encounter?

Also thanks a lot.
For pirate missions they favor the local pirate factions. For Lanngisi that means Angels as mentioned. SOE does seem to get occasionally obsessed with trying to make you kill the Amarr though, only real downside to missioning for them other than the increased activity.


Yeah you will get missions based mostly on the local rat type (Minmatar System > Angel Missions) however as previously mentioned you will get a sprinkling of other factions which in SoE case is Serpentis. You will also get the standard 'factionless' missions (Drones, Mercenaries etc). Another great way to supplement your income is to use ProSynergy to salvage and loot your missions for you while you blitz them in a high dps ship.

As I said previously I'd recommend the Mach, it has the higher base warp speed which with the recent changes, plays a huge part in your mission efficiency. I'd slap some T2 warp speed rigs on there as well.
Taegessia
Doomheim
#15 - 2014-06-20 14:17:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Taegessia
There are many answers to your query. Since you are fairly new to mission running I will give you the safest one.

Don't go to Lanngisi just yet. I suggest to go to a 0.8 - 1.0 security system where chances of getting ganked are greatly reduced. Not be immune to it, just safer ( a lot safer from my experience).

This will allow you to become familiar with L4 missions without worrying too much about ganks & also it will give you some room to maneuver with faction modules that will help you to finish missions faster (say 1-3 faction damage mods and a relatively cheap deadspace local repair module and\or hardeners).

Ideally, you will go to Lanngisi when your skills are nearly maxed (dps\tank) & you already have accumulated some experience with most L4 missions. You need to spend as little time as possible to each mission locations to reduce chances of getting ganked.

Upside for Lanngisi are the LP rewards-ratios compared to a non-SOE 0.5 security system. Downside is the 120+ AUs distance you have to travel every time you get a mission in Barkrik (so 240+ AUs counting the return to homebase)

"Please add an option to automatically repackage & stack our currently unpackaged items in our item hangar".

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2014-06-26 06:09:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Hasikan Miallok
Taegessia wrote:
There are many answers to your query. Since you are fairly new to mission running I will give you the safest one.

Don't go to Lanngisi just yet. I suggest to go to a 0.8 - 1.0 security system where chances of getting ganked are greatly reduced. Not be immune to it, just safer ( a lot safer from my experience).

This will allow you to become familiar with L4 missions without worrying too much about ganks & also it will give you some room to maneuver with faction modules that will help you to finish missions faster (say 1-3 faction damage mods and a relatively cheap deadspace local repair module and\or hardeners).

Ideally, you will go to Lanngisi when your skills are nearly maxed (dps\tank) & you already have accumulated some experience with most L4 missions. You need to spend as little time as possible to each mission locations to reduce chances of getting ganked.

Upside for Lanngisi are the LP rewards-ratios compared to a non-SOE 0.5 security system. Downside is the 120+ AUs distance you have to travel every time you get a mission in Barkrik (so 240+ AUs counting the return to homebase)


It's kind of relative to what you are flying. Even at Lanngisi a T1/T2 fitted Domi is reasonably safe. I have heard of T2 fitted marauders being ganked but even that is rare. Once you add even a single cheapish faction mod that will change however and deadspace or officer mods are like painting a target on yourself.

If you only have the one mission ship and cannot afford to replace it by all means play it safe, however the original question was "most profitable mission system" and the answer to that is Lanngisi providing you do not fly shiney.
Maxpie
MUSE LLP
RAZOR Alliance
#17 - 2014-06-26 14:33:03 UTC
One thing to keep in mind also is standings. If you trade at a particular trade hub station, it is owned by a particular corp (Cal Navy, Empire Family). Raising standings with that corp lowers your transaction taxes at that station. Good standings can save you significant isk over time, especilly if you also do some trading.

No good deed goes unpunished

Bland Inquisitor
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2014-06-28 11:37:20 UTC
Bateau Erinys wrote:
Hi folks, I'm fairly new to mission running. just kinda wonder if there is any traditional high profit system/ NPC corp to grind the LV4 security mission? in terms of sec level, logistic, and LP ratio.
many thanks!


probably far away from trade hubs