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Dear CCP; a quick word about ammo:

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Kaaeliaa
Tyrannos Sunset
#21 - 2014-06-20 09:46:25 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Kaaeliaa wrote:
Misinformation is toxic.



Even Neil DeGrasse Tyson isn't this anal. It's only misinformation if it's stated as fact. Since it's a game, ie fictional, it's not being stated as fact, therefore it's not misinformation. It is, in fact, fiction, just like spaceships and warp drives.

But while we're on the subject of the future of nuclear, screw uranium. Thorium ftw.


I agree completely. Molten salt thorium reactors are the best option.

Also, yay my first troll thread. :D

"Do not lift the veil. Do not show the door. Do not split the dream."
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2014-06-20 09:48:22 UTC
SPACESHIPS ARE NOT REAL???? WHAT THE **** MAN??!!

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Tebizla
#23 - 2014-06-20 10:29:01 UTC
Kaaeliaa wrote:
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Also, yay my first troll thread. :D


Realizing this was a pointless thread does suck indeed.
Especially if you start making excuses.

/thread.

Obviously not a forum / spy / market alt ...
Serene Repose
#24 - 2014-06-20 10:50:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
omg no. you didn't. okay, since you did....giving depleted uranium a bad name...

"Science" has a very limited comprehension and understanding about the long term effects of radiation. The "amounts" they use for illustrative purposes are essentially arbitrarily chosen. Oddly enough, they've been reduced over time...moreso than say...the effect of radiation.

To sit here and claim to possess authoritative knowledge with regard to how much does what to whom where and how is just as confusing and deceptive as the humorous description in the game. In fact, it is more deceptive as couching rank speculation in the aura of authority does confuse and deceive, whereas a joke just MIGHT.

The fact is, they don't know. The amounts and sorts of radiation available to be exposed to have not been around long enough to even consider there's a body of knowledge that could be seriously called "long-term". The effects of atmospheric content, content in water (the recent debacle in Japan with regard to the ocean) are not known.

It cannot be said if "a lot" or "a little" has been introduced into our ecosystem since Madam Curie. It cannot be honestly said how much of this material has escaped from controlled conditions, it even cannot be said if the so-called controlled conditions are actually as controlled as we are led to believe.

This is all not a joke. AT least EVE's description of it is. And, yes. The entire point of comedy is to laugh at these seriously stupid things. Giving depleted uranium a bad name...I can't believe I read that.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
CCP Falcon
#25 - 2014-06-20 10:57:15 UTC
Kaaeliaa wrote:
Also, yay my first troll thread. :D


Solid 9/10.

Would read again.

<3


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Arline Kley
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#26 - 2014-06-20 10:58:54 UTC
Given that the Fusion ammunition is magnitudes of power more dangerous than DU - aka throwing STARS at the enemy (and less said about Antimatter the better...) - a little humour about a comically exaggerated reaction to radiation from one of the more commonly known radiactive materials is fine.

"For it was said they had become like those peculiar demons, which dwell in matter but in whom no light may be found." - Father Grigori, Ravens 3:57
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-06-20 10:59:08 UTC
Did you use the word 'science' in inverted commas to indicate you think the science is making stuff up?

Because, there are over two million articles here that suggest science has more than a 'very limited comprehension and understanding of the long term effects of radiation'.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Jessica Duranin
Doomheim
#28 - 2014-06-20 11:00:05 UTC
Kaaeliaa wrote:
Considering that nuclear power is the future of large scale power generation, this could have a deleterious effect on its development and deployment.

I'd say having nuclear power plants blow up now and then and causing entire areas to become uninhabitable has a much more deleterious effect than a humorous description in a video game.
Handar Turiant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2014-06-20 11:05:46 UTC
*applauds*

Epic trolling is epic.

Almost on par with completely ridiculous rants from the Republican party.

You sir, are a forum star.
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#30 - 2014-06-20 11:06:56 UTC
I demand that CCP changes depleted uranium ammo power to renewable types of ammunition like wind ammo, hydropower ammo, solar ammo and geothermal ammo. That way the space ecosystem will be preserved for future spaceships to space pew.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2014-06-20 11:10:54 UTC
Jessica Duranin wrote:
Kaaeliaa wrote:
Considering that nuclear power is the future of large scale power generation, this could have a deleterious effect on its development and deployment.

I'd say having nuclear power plants blow up now and then and causing entire areas to become uninhabitable has a much more deleterious effect than a humorous description in a video game.

Far more people have died from almost any other kind of power generation you can name than nuclear.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2014-06-20 11:12:39 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
"Science" has a very limited comprehension and understanding about the long term effects of radiation.

You are not a health physicist nor a radiological scientist. The fact that you put science in quotes is just one of many indications that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2014-06-20 11:12:45 UTC
Jessica Duranin wrote:
Kaaeliaa wrote:
Considering that nuclear power is the future of large scale power generation, this could have a deleterious effect on its development and deployment.

I'd say having nuclear power plants blow up now and then and causing entire areas to become uninhabitable has a much more deleterious effect than a humorous description in a video game.


It is impossible for a reactor to explode like a nuclear weapon; these weapons contain very special materials in very particular configurations, neither of which are present in a nuclear reactor.

Nuclear energy is as safe or safer than any other form of energy available. No member of the public has ever been injured or killed in the entire 50-year history of commercial nuclear power in the U.S. In fact, recent studies have shown that it is safer to work in a nuclear power plant than an office.

Today, 436 reactors are operating in 31 countries, generating about 15 percent of the world’s electricity. Fifty reactors are under construction, primarily in China, South Korea, and Russia, with the fastest growth in Asia. India, France, and Finland also are building new plants. And that's only the reactors that are generating commercial power. There are many more in labs around the globe.

As for the occasional accident, let's take the most well-known of three, total. A Chernobyl-type accident could not have happened outside of the Soviet Union because this type of reactor was never built or operated anywhere else. The known fatalities during the Chernobyl accident were mostly emergency first responders. Of the people known to have received a high radiation dose, the increase in cancer incidence is too small to measure due to other causes of cancer such as air pollution and tobacco use. There was virtually no divergence from the mean cancer rate in the USSR following that incident.

The area is not uninhabitable. It was originally declared an exclusion zone due to the incident. It only remains one for scientific study on the long term effects of residual radiation in the area.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#34 - 2014-06-20 11:13:27 UTC
I demand cancer warnings on UV and X-Ray crystals!

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2014-06-20 11:15:33 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
I demand cancer warnings on UV and X-Ray crystals!


And one on the infra-red crystals that says "Point away from eyes".

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2014-06-20 11:17:35 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Also I've read the descriptions on DU ammo before and despite being very pro-nuclear, I'm not so spergy that I can't recognize a joke. OP needs to get laid or something.

Also, DU isn't entirely innocent. It's still a heavy metal and will cause the same kind of heavy metal toxicity issues that lead does. That probably accounts for the majority of horrifying effects attributed to it, the rest probably being completely unrelated and/or sensationalized.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#37 - 2014-06-20 11:18:56 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
In fact, recent studies have shown that it is safer to work in a nuclear power plant than an office.

Nuclear power plants have offices too.....
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2014-06-20 11:21:32 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
In fact, recent studies have shown that it is safer to work in a nuclear power plant than an office.

Nuclear power plants have offices too.....


You had to go and complicate it, didn't you P

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Goswin Winters
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#39 - 2014-06-20 11:28:48 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Jessica Duranin wrote:
Kaaeliaa wrote:
Considering that nuclear power is the future of large scale power generation, this could have a deleterious effect on its development and deployment.

I'd say having nuclear power plants blow up now and then and causing entire areas to become uninhabitable has a much more deleterious effect than a humorous description in a video game.


It is impossible for a reactor to explode like a nuclear weapon; these weapons contain very special materials in very particular configurations, neither of which are present in a nuclear reactor.

Nuclear energy is as safe or safer than any other form of energy available. No member of the public has ever been injured or killed in the entire 50-year history of commercial nuclear power in the U.S. In fact, recent studies have shown that it is safer to work in a nuclear power plant than an office.

Today, 436 reactors are operating in 31 countries, generating about 15 percent of the world’s electricity. Fifty reactors are under construction, primarily in China, South Korea, and Russia, with the fastest growth in Asia. India, France, and Finland also are building new plants. And that's only the reactors that are generating commercial power. There are many more in labs around the globe.

As for the occasional accident, let's take the most well-known of three, total. A Chernobyl-type accident could not have happened outside of the Soviet Union because this type of reactor was never built or operated anywhere else. The known fatalities during the Chernobyl accident were mostly emergency first responders. Of the people known to have received a high radiation dose, the increase in cancer incidence is too small to measure due to other causes of cancer such as air pollution and tobacco use. There was virtually no divergence from the mean cancer rate in the USSR following that incident.

The area is not uninhabitable. It was originally declared an exclusion zone due to the incident. It only remains one for scientific study on the long term effects of residual radiation in the area.


You might have thousands of square kilometers to spare in the US and maybe radiation would help some of your rednecks to evolve into human beings, but over here in good ol' Europe I'd rather not have a baguette get stuck in the cooling system of a french reactor next door...
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2014-06-20 11:32:36 UTC
Welcome, throwaway forum alt. Did you know that France gets 75% of its electricity from nuclear power? They have a pretty good track record for it too.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)