EVE General Discussion

On singularity I can put a pos, a compressor, a weeks fuel (that will last me months) a skiff and a viator in my alts orca, fly that to any stationless dead end backwater system (that on tranquility would be empty of both competition and gankers), drop the pos, online the compressor, stick the orca and runner in the nearest station, and the mine all day with the skiff straight to the compressor, and at the end of the day, take the orca to remove everything, and then run the blockade runner to a station that isn't 4-4 in jita to switch to a full tank occator for the drop off, which is a bit more tolerant of my other-side-of-the-world lag for the 4-4 docking ring.

IMO highly convenient, very gank resistant, and the orca can MWD/cloak warp off the gates enroute getting there.

Same tools are also handy for sniping some "H's" and some jaspet from low - just leave the orca at the edge, bring a covops to scout, use the viator to setup the pos and mwd/cloak the skiff in and then use a depot to fix its fit.

I personally can't fault CCPs upcoming toolset for the loss averse miner, or the risky miner.
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Also as a result of the upcoming changes, I'm going to yank my highsec research pos, because I just won't need it for invention, copying my BPOs to send bpcs to null or researching me anymore.

I also cannot fault CCPs upcoming toolset for the new player, as thats very new indy friendly (easy access to copy and material research for everyone).
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ie the patch is better for everyone except the advanced highsec industrialist that wants to have an unrivalled to-market advantage over nullsec, which to me is and always has been absurd.

Themepark carebears and their logic. I love threads like this

Without ganking their would be no EvE Online. You can't have a sandbox mmo-rpg game without non-consensual PvP. You can't add a new feature in a sandbox mmo-rpg game without non-consensual PvP. It's not possible.

EvE Online is a complex sandbox mmo-rpg game, it's all about Player vs Player interactive competition, Gathering Resources, Manufacturing and Destruction, it's all Player vs Player, even when you're logged out.

And there a good reason for this to happen.

There is a cycle of life in sandbox mmo-rpg games. Like a said before, Gathering Resources, Manufacturing and Destruction, all of them are interconnected to each other and without them, the game is broken. All are equally important and can't work without each other. It's an ecosystem, if you break a part of the cycle, you break the game.

What happened to the great sandbox mmo-rpg called Ultima Online, the developers created a safe haven in the game for carebears, with this change the cycle was broken, no more "Destruction" so their was no need for "Manufacturing" and obvious, no need for "Gathering" either. The game died, just like that.


So prise the ganker, because without them, there would be no game.

Places. This thread has gone to them.

A fish, flapping helplessly around on the deck of my trawler.
Beans, in my cup and on my plate and in my bed.

Does that mean my industry alt will net better prices now?

Go ahead please!

You should post that one in F&I, I'd totally support that. ^^

A glorious idea, but 100x more effort than simply looking at your screen while hauling.

So, never gonna happen. Carebears were born doomed.

I have only read the first post, but....


BAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

if this really is in effect in a widespread way, that just means it's time to fire up my indy alts who haven't been doing much.

Also give 'em all Iterons between batches.

....not that you're really going to have that much of an effect, because of so many people like me.

How can that be if they only cause a drop in the flood of materials. You can't have it both ways dude.

There's so much tinfoil here, its disrupting radar

Your "large" amounts of material are as small as your own claims of the value of ganking ships and mining ships lost.

Your point is oxymoronic, Im afraid.