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High sec Jump Freighter Cynos

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Ihazcheez Hashur
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2014-06-18 12:08:33 UTC
It's as the subject says.. please please please enable jump freighter specific cynos to operate in high security systems.
As it is you can jump out of high sec, but would love the function of being able to cyno a freighter back to high sec.

Heck, I might actually use my JF in this case!

TLDR; Freighter only cyno. allows jumping into and through high sec.
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#2 - 2014-06-18 12:14:33 UTC
As a JF pilot and logistics bod while I would love this I'm going to have to say no.

To me cynos are binary, either you have them or you don't and in HiSec you don't for very good reasons.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Anthar Thebess
#3 - 2014-06-18 12:32:28 UTC
So jump from Nullsec station to Higsec , and back?

Stop discrimination, help in a fight against terrorists

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De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2014-06-18 14:12:22 UTC
No. Just no.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Gaijin Lanis
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-06-18 14:44:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Gaijin Lanis
Only if lighting a cyno in hisec gives a suspect tag and calls faction police. Same goes for anything jumping in. Also weapons timer on anything jumping into hisec.

The above was written and posted with nothing but love in my heart for all.
Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2014-06-18 14:53:02 UTC
I keep it simple.

NO !
Bohneik Itohn
10.K
#7 - 2014-06-18 14:54:24 UTC
Nope. Simple reason that high sec police would be 100% against allowing this, as it would allow the completely safe transport of illegal goods through high sec.

It'd be like putting a dirt road that cuts off from the main highway at a national border with a sign that says "Drug Smugglers Only". Why would any of the empires allow you a guaranteed way to bypass their customs laws?

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Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2014-06-18 14:56:23 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
No

*Snip* Please refrain from distorting the forum layout. ISD Ezwal.
Daoden
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-06-18 14:58:18 UTC
Cause jump freighters are already at so much of risk just docking and skipping 99% of the stargates as is.
No
TheMercenaryKing
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#10 - 2014-06-18 16:04:39 UTC
Put a jump beacon 2 AU away from Jita 4-4 that any black ops or JF can jump to.

Will be perma-camped and bumping 23.5/7.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#11 - 2014-06-18 16:09:26 UTC
Ihazcheez Hashur wrote:
It's as the subject says.. please please please enable jump freighter specific cynos to operate in high security systems.
As it is you can jump out of high sec, but would love the function of being able to cyno a freighter back to high sec.

Heck, I might actually use my JF in this case!

TLDR; Freighter only cyno. allows jumping into and through high sec.


No. It would actually be better if ships could not jump out of high sec to a cyno, but had to take at least one gate.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Maximum Entropy
Entropic Principal
#12 - 2014-06-19 03:13:47 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
How to post in "Features and Ideas" subforum:

Just write "no."

Don't need to give a reason.

*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

Why is the total number of "likes received" a poster has inversely proportional to the quality of posts one makes?
Dally Lama
Doomheim
#13 - 2014-06-19 06:52:20 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Maximum Entropy wrote:
How to post in "Features and Ideas" subforum:

Just write "no."

Don't need to give a reason.

*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

No, with a reason:

Skipping over the entirety of high-sec is too easy and does not promote content creation.

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Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-06-19 07:00:39 UTC
No.
Why the hell should jump freighters be able to jump from HS station to HS station? This doesn't even touch on 0.0 logistics. 0 risk for huge rewards? Yeah cause THAT sure fits with Eves game model.
No.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#15 - 2014-06-19 07:11:54 UTC
Because any kind of regional market variation is bad, right?
Laura Agathon
Nothing on Dscan
#16 - 2014-06-19 07:30:49 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:
No

*Snip* Please refrain from distorting the forum layout. ISD Ezwal.


As above.
Arline Kley
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#17 - 2014-06-19 08:00:56 UTC
Long Answer: The ability to bypass virtually any and all dangers towards your target destination is an unbalanced ideal that would consequently act s a negative factor towards the jump freighter community, which would been seen as disdain and priority targettting towards such ships by any party (even more so than current), regardless of otherwise more valuable targets in their vicinity.

Short Answer: No, its not balanced for EVE. They removed hi sec cynos in for a reason.

"For it was said they had become like those peculiar demons, which dwell in matter but in whom no light may be found." - Father Grigori, Ravens 3:57
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#18 - 2014-06-19 08:19:25 UTC

Just in case the sentiment towards your proposal is unclear....

HELL NO!


Now, you might wonder why? It is pretty simple: Jump logistics already bypass the majority of risks when moving from point A to B. A properly place cyno will land you within docking range where they can wait out the 10 second session change timer before docking, all while enjoying targeting immunity. The ONLY danger a JF pilot has when jumping from point A to B is from cyno placement incompetence and/or hostile ships that bump you out of docking range within that 10 second window. Cyno's in highsec would bypass these last two risks.... at the expense of a noobship cyno? You won't find much support for this, as it violates the risk vs reward game paradigm.
Duchess Starbuckington
Doomheim
#19 - 2014-06-19 08:57:27 UTC
Taking what is already one of the most risk-free and outright overpowered class of ships in the game and then giving them enormous buffs?

To quote a number of others in this thread: NO.

Also anyone wanna start a bet on whether the OP is a troll?
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#20 - 2014-06-19 08:59:25 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
What after buffing JFs to 1 mil ehp you want highsec cynos?

All these buffs not enough?
*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal. Please OP?

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