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chiq Mech
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2014-06-18 23:07:55 UTC
Webvan wrote:
You didn't mention ever operating from a highsec island, might be something in that for you. Including a little more challenge to logistics, yet while being quieter than highsec contiguity.


No, I hadn't thought about that. Good tip. i'll give that a whirl first before trying the other suggestions. Thanks
Rear Admiral Blasto
41st Brigade The Scot Slayers
#22 - 2014-06-19 00:09:44 UTC
I live in a C2 WH and there is a good mix of whatever it is you are looking for....
I tend to be on at odd hours and go from being able to join corps mates for PVP, to logging on and being the only one online. I have adapted to do both solo and group activities.

There is always a LS and/or HS available, but find the LS connections provide the most solo opportunities. For solo work with a few alts, (as you seem to have) mining in a WH is very possible, site running as well. But as mentioned, the LS connections provide ratting, mining, sites, exploration, gas and you will always find a new connection after a few min if the first one you find is no good for what you are after.
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2014-06-19 01:12:24 UTC
Domina Trix wrote:
Dorian Wylde wrote:
What are you planning on doing solo if none of those activities appeal to you?

Short answer is: EVE is a multiplayer game. It will never be balanced or iterated around solo play.


EvE is also a sandbox game, which means EVERY playstyle is just as valid as every other playstyle. You come across as the typical EvE-ite: "Play how you like as long as you play the way I say." I agree it will never be balanced around solo play, and so it shouldn't be but that is no reason to dismiss the OPs playstyle.



I never said the playstyle wasn't valid. I'm a solo player 90% of the time. Whether you like it or not, eve is not a solo game. You can play solo as much as you want, but that won't stop other players from bothering you. That is a fact the OP, and you, need to deal with.
Ibrahim Vaughn Holtzman
the holtzman experience
CAStabouts
#24 - 2014-06-19 05:56:25 UTC
Webvan wrote:
operating from a highsec island


That's what I'm doing too: my assets are stored in the relative safety of a HS constellation where I'm oftentimes the only one in local thanks to being surrounded by strings of low and null systems, while most of my actual activity happens in said low or null systems.
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
#25 - 2014-06-19 08:51:30 UTC
ELQuirko wrote:
FW lowsec tends to be good if you stay away from the areas of intense fighting.

There's a lot of truth in this statement, many of the areas that aren't highly contested are actually pretty quiet. You won't be alone per se, as there is a lot of farmers in these quiet areas (for the very reason that they are quiet.) You definately need to be on your toes because roaming pirates will venture along these unbeaten paths looking for the careless pilots that reside here.
Marc Durant
#26 - 2014-06-19 08:54:34 UTC
Living in a C1 works just fine solo.

Yes, yes I am. Thanks for noticing.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#27 - 2014-06-19 08:56:28 UTC
Marc Durant wrote:
Living in a C1 works just fine solo.


Yup, you'll do well stopping those 14-man Corp invasions on your own

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Marc Durant
#28 - 2014-06-19 09:05:22 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Marc Durant wrote:
Living in a C1 works just fine solo.


Yup, you'll do well stopping those 14-man Corp invasions on your own


Yes. That will happen every time, obviously.

Yes, yes I am. Thanks for noticing.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#29 - 2014-06-19 09:15:34 UTC
Marc Durant wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Marc Durant wrote:
Living in a C1 works just fine solo.


Yup, you'll do well stopping those 14-man Corp invasions on your own


Yes. That will happen every time, obviously.


Yes, it does.

Obviously.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Domina Trix
McKNOBBLER DRINKING CLAN
#30 - 2014-06-19 10:12:26 UTC
Dorian Wylde wrote:
Domina Trix wrote:
Dorian Wylde wrote:
What are you planning on doing solo if none of those activities appeal to you?

Short answer is: EVE is a multiplayer game. It will never be balanced or iterated around solo play.


EvE is also a sandbox game, which means EVERY playstyle is just as valid as every other playstyle. You come across as the typical EvE-ite: "Play how you like as long as you play the way I say." I agree it will never be balanced around solo play, and so it shouldn't be but that is no reason to dismiss the OPs playstyle.



I never said the playstyle wasn't valid. I'm a solo player 90% of the time. Whether you like it or not, eve is not a solo game. You can play solo as much as you want, but that won't stop other players from bothering you. That is a fact the OP, and you, need to deal with.


I see you selectively cut off the part where I said the game should NOT be balanced around solo playstyles then. Where did I say other players bothering me was a problem? I've been ganked before and if you look at the post history considered it a part of the game and learned from it as should every one.

Twerps that think that killing a mining barge is a big pvp achievement are just a part of this game as anyone else.

Two of the defining characteristics of a carebear are wanting other players to play the way the carebear wants and whining on the forums for the game to change when they don't. Yet I see more threads on these forums from gankers than I do miners whining about wanting the game changed to suit them.
chiq Mech
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2014-06-19 11:34:26 UTC
Domina Trix wrote:
Dorian Wylde wrote:
Domina Trix wrote:
Dorian Wylde wrote:
What are you planning on doing solo if none of those activities appeal to you?

Short answer is: EVE is a multiplayer game. It will never be balanced or iterated around solo play.


EvE is also a sandbox game, which means EVERY playstyle is just as valid as every other playstyle. You come across as the typical EvE-ite: "Play how you like as long as you play the way I say." I agree it will never be balanced around solo play, and so it shouldn't be but that is no reason to dismiss the OPs playstyle.



I never said the playstyle wasn't valid. I'm a solo player 90% of the time. Whether you like it or not, eve is not a solo game. You can play solo as much as you want, but that won't stop other players from bothering you. That is a fact the OP, and you, need to deal with.


I see you selectively cut off the part where I said the game should NOT be balanced around solo playstyles then. Where did I say other players bothering me was a problem? I've been ganked before and if you look at the post history considered it a part of the game and learned from it as should every one.

Twerps that think that killing a mining barge is a big pvp achievement are just a part of this game as anyone else.


just to add to this discussion - I know Eve isn't and never will be a solo game and neither would I want it to be. I enjoy interaction. I just said I want to try solo play until I get enough capital/skills together to be able to join a small active nullsec corp.

In the meantime, I'm going to try the lowsec and the island ideas first. I don't think I'm quite ready for wormholes, but it is something I want to try in the future.

What would be awesome for solo players are personal habitation modules. I'd love to have my own place to dock and to actualy get out of the ship and wander around a little home with a starfront balcony. Defending it would be difficult I imagine. I love the station quarters, just a shame it takes so long to load. I'd use it all the time if it was instant load like the ship hangar.

Anyway, off to try out your ideas :)
Moth Eisig
#32 - 2014-06-19 13:40:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Moth Eisig
Most of nullsec is actually pretty quiet. You just have to avoid a few specific systems, learn how to get through the occasional lone interceptor bubble camp (not hard), and maybe keep an eye on what timezone the natives are most active in, and it will be pretty easy to make a living doing exploration solo.

For the manufacturing and mining characters, I agree with the ideas already posted.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#33 - 2014-06-19 15:30:45 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay.
Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!

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On topic, a C1 Wormhole system works just fine, especially with a low or null sec static. Put up a small or medium tower with some defences to fall back on and retreat to if needed.
Are there dangers? Of course there are, this is EvE. But it is certainly viable for a lone wolf and can be quite worthwhile and rewarding.

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SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#34 - 2014-06-19 15:32:09 UTC  |  Edited by: SurrenderMonkey
chiq Mech wrote:
...a quiet place to live as a solo player?

So far I've tried

1. A carebear corp in Highsec: infinitely dull, mission running and highsec mining - and that's when people are online

2. A corp in one of the giant alliances, living in null: great guys, but I'm not a fan of teamspeak and I didn't really care enough about sovereignty squabbles to get involved in fleets. Plus too many rules and restrictions

3. A small rental corp in null who promised me a quiet life only to discover they had to keep moving homebases because they were being forced to pay protection money. Again, great guys - but a bit stuck really as they can't do anything without fleeting up (which is a pain if you are the only one online).

4. I've also tried living in the null pirate regions. I love those regions but they are controlled by small pirate corps and I can't budge an inch without being followed/bubbled/ganked etc. When playing solo I can't retaliate - well not with my skills anyway.

I'm plexing 3 chars, but all are fairly new. I want to manufacture/mine/explore and when I have the skills and ships do some combat anoms.

I know this flies in the face of core pvp values - but I'd just love a few quiet systems where I can log in for a few hours, do my stuff and log out.

Is this possible? Or am I asking too much? Genuine questions, if anyone has tips please share.


Play X3 instead? I'm largely a solo player in that I fly alone, but you seem to want to avoid all interaction with other players, in which case I don't see any reason why you want to play a PvP-centric MMO instead of a single-player game.

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

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Solecist Project
#35 - 2014-06-19 16:25:52 UTC
Hey my dear.

Let me give you practical advise.

if you want to play alone I suggest you look at the map for a few days in regular intervals.
Making screenshots and comparing them throughout the days in paint.net (http://getpaint.net) helps too.

What you want to know is the number of jumps and the number of people in local.

You can easily find rather quiet systems that way,
but you'll be far away from tradehubs.

There are also empty deadend lowsec systems which shouldn't attract too much attention
as long as you don't kill too many NPCs. Others check the map too.

Have fun and get killed repeatedly.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#36 - 2014-06-19 18:22:03 UTC
a c1-c2-c3 wormhole with lowsec static - easy money-making potential, no capital ships, pvp opportunities through the low exits.

anchor a pos, arm it, and live in it as you see fit - noone is going to bother evicting you from a c1 or a c2, or a c3 even.
chiq Mech
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2014-06-19 23:00:43 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Hey my dear.

Let me give you practical advise.

if you want to play alone I suggest you look at the map for a few days in regular intervals.
Making screenshots and comparing them throughout the days in paint.net (http://getpaint.net) helps too.

What you want to know is the number of jumps and the number of people in local.

You can easily find rather quiet systems that way,
but you'll be far away from tradehubs.

There are also empty deadend lowsec systems which shouldn't attract too much attention
as long as you don't kill too many NPCs. Others check the map too.

Have fun and get killed repeatedly.


Awesome advice! Not thought about that. Going to give it a go.

Liking the idea of C1 too...just need a few more skills for that :)
Elmonky
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2014-06-20 18:44:41 UTC
Currently living in a C2 WH with a Static C4, Static Hi Sec and usually another C1 or C2 to jump into. IT IS FUN. Admittedly I'm not solo, but not all of the corp is here and they mostly live in another TZ to me.


So much potential isk I feel like Scrooge McDuck diving into his money vault.
Kremlyn Aldard
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2014-06-24 09:40:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Kremlyn Aldard
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Ranzabar
Doomheim
#40 - 2014-06-27 05:12:44 UTC
As H.L Mencken said "Hell is other people", I too like to play alone.

Abide
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